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US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Campaign 2020, Democratic party, Elizabeth Warren )

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TomCat S (127)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 1:30 pm
It seems awfully early for Campaign 2020 to begin, but apparently several members of the Democratic Party are already jockeying for pole position in the race for the Democratic Nomination. It’s critically important that Democrats have a nominee with a solid progressive agenda, because we cannot afford another situation in which personal purity mavens dupe so many progressive voters into voting for a can’t-win third party nominee, instead of a less progressive Democrat. Look how Putin’s other puppet, Jill Stein, handed the election to Trump. We can’t afford to let the pie-in-the-sky set hand the election to another monster like ___________ (insert any Republican here).

Kathleen Mireault (211)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 1:39 pm
Noted. Thx for sharing TC!

David C (108)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 1:50 pm
thanks, we all look better in blue ....and red always makes me think debt, war, violence......

Pat B (356)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 1:59 pm
Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Joe Kennedy III, (who may or may not run)...All worthy candidates.

Ted W (127)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 2:02 pm
Noted, forwarded and shared ultra-liberally across four networks!!!! RESIST! Thanks for sharing, TomCat!!

Joanne Dixon (38)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 2:04 pm
Personally, I feel that it was more important in 2016 that we had a candidate who had been slandered so persistently for so long that the mind of the country was full of s**t about her - and we never really confronted that dragon. Of course, it's possible that we would not have been able to slay it anyway, but we didn't seem to be trying to. And, athough I don't feel that third party voters actually had much effect in 2016, that's not to say they might not have a HUGE effect in 2020. Comparable to John Anderson. And that's terrifying.

The list may in fact be long, but the list of names they actually print is not. And it doesn't include anyone who would be in my top few choices. Sherrod Brown. Adam Schiff. Jeff Merkley. Daniel Webster - no, wait - he's dead. But we could stand to have him or someone like him - based on the legend that he got a New England farmer out of a contract with the devil. Because, given what we are up against, we need to be that good.

As far as early - I guess I would say, it's not too early to think about it. It's far too early to make any commitments.


Peggy B (43)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 4:41 pm
It will be interesting to see who runs and how the dems handle it. They've lost a load of members. They will need to appeal to the Independents

Walter F (129)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 4:57 pm
To date a joint team of Sanders and Warren for the positions of presidential candidates would be a winning team .Why not stick with them?

Mitchell D (86)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 5:11 pm
The Rethugs will probably help fund the campaigns of more than one Democrat, in order to sow disarray, and use their old “divide and conquer,” strategy. As much as I can value perspectives that are outside the “standard” DNC picture, we can not allow Stein, Johnson, Nader, or anyone else to hand the election to the Rethugs, whatever small-brained imbecile they nominate. And, if you think back to the field of Rethugs from 2016, each and every one of them was a loosing proposition for the country.
Of course, the MOST heinously sick of them was able to play to the media and some 62,000,000 grasping, deluded fools.
I like Walter's idea, but Biden may be a more viable choice. We shall see what we shall see.

Freya H (358)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 5:44 pm
"Vote blue no matter who." Noble words, but they do not address the problem of the Democratic Party creeping slowly to the right. We need REAL progressives in charge, and as candidates. The lesser of two evils is still evil. Democrats need to regroup and return to their progressive roots - otherwise, they will be indistinguishable from Republicans, just as the pigs were indistinguishable from the humans at the end of Animal Farm.

Lona G (67)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 6:14 pm
How about first making sure all Congresses are filled with as many progressive Democrats as possible in 2018 and raise money for this vital midterm to counteract all that money the Kochs et al have been pumping into it? And what about regenerating the Democratic party, i.e. making it more progressive, as it promised their voters? Focusing on a presidential candidate before strengthening the base seems a waste of time and money if that is not what voters on the left are looking for right now.

Katie & Bill D (107)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 7:16 pm
Thank you TomCat

Glennis W (395)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 7:16 pm
It is never too early to think of the next vote Go Blues all the way. Great comments with heaps of feelings in them Take care and rest well when you can, hope the temps and humidity lowers for you Thank you for caring and sharing TomCat

JL A (281)
Sunday September 3, 2017, 8:12 pm
The party has two few that are not beholden to Wall St. and Fossil Fuel companies...and big pharma. Anyone with that money trail has been shown not to deserve being called a progressive with their votes, and that included Clinton.

Dawnie W (250)
Monday September 4, 2017, 1:54 am
💙💚💜Noted...I'm back finally but losing my mo-joe really quick, it's almost time for bed again. I get tired very easy. I have a lot of catching up to do but it is going to take a little time. So "bare with me."

💚💙💜Thank you...TomCat💙💜💚

💚😉💜ღ 💙Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ😺💜L💙ve, Hugs and Peace go with you all💜😺Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ღ💙😉💚

Lynn S (235)
Monday September 4, 2017, 2:28 am
"... I [Wall Street billionaire Marc Lasry, a major political donor] tell them all that it’s way too early, and that they need a clearer message about what they want to do, not just about opposing Trump.”"
The Democrats need to do some serious planning starting now if they are to wrest some control of Congress from Republicans in 2018 and the White House in 2020.  They need to get their platform straight and listen to their constituents.  They need to leave the hostility at the door and as Lasry said, produce a clear message of what they want to do.  Look at what Bernie did in 2016.
Drumpf has already announced he is running in 2020 on which hopefully Robert Mueller will put the kibosh.  But even without Drumpf, there is a whole cabal of Republicans and other right wing nuts that want to keep control of the Congress and destroy the nation.
Another big part of coming back is laying groundwork at the municipal, county and state level.  Build the Democratic organisation from the bottom up, taking a page out of the Republican play book.  

Vote blue no matter who!!!

Resist, Persist and Remove!!!

Nita L (125)
Monday September 4, 2017, 2:29 am
Well put Freya. Thank you TomCat.

Ed Site Issues V (198)
Monday September 4, 2017, 4:35 am
Noted, Thanks

Arielle S (313)
Monday September 4, 2017, 7:02 am
I'd love to see somebody new and fresh - young and vibrant, like Trudeau or even Macron. Somebody clever enough to make the rethugs look like the miserable crap they are...

Ben O (140)
Monday September 4, 2017, 7:10 am
I wish it was 2020 tomorrow!

Jim P (3247)
Monday September 4, 2017, 8:44 am
Waaaaay to early to start thinking about the 2020 Presidential Election. Just because Drumpf has already started on his campaign is no reason that the Demos should start and play catch-up. I would like to see a "law" that presidential campaigns start one (1) year prior to the election itself. Like many of you, I am tired of the constant mailings for donations and a barrage of numerous emails.

Who are these 20 Demo candidates running for presidential office. The NYT only mentions a few names. Does anyone have knowledge of the 20 candidates, please list them. Never mind. I found links to potential candidates as googled below.

The 43 people who might run against Trump in 2020

Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020

What the Demos should be doing is concentrating on its root and basic platform, a la Bernie style, and concentrate on the 2018 mid-term elections. The Demos need to get back the House and Senate to counter-act Drumpf. WE Demos need to elect progressives in all elected positions from the cat catcher on up to board of education, city & town councils and in all state offices.

Trish K (29)
Monday September 4, 2017, 9:03 am
Presidential candidate must be youthful and a combination of Bernie Sanders, Willie Nelson and Adam Schiff. For VP - Of course everyone loves Dolly Parton and she's got really big brains and a smart ass side of her that white men fear. The team must be Razzel Dazzle just to verbally fillet the ShitGibbon and knock the others off guard. No more of this Mr. or Mrs. nice guy B.S.. Stop tiptoeing around the lying cheating squealing two timing cheater and the start a war wannabe. whew -

Barb SiteIssues V (202)
Monday September 4, 2017, 10:44 am
Noted, Thank you

Winn A (179)
Monday September 4, 2017, 11:23 am
I'm voting Blue no matter who. Any Democrat is better than ANY Republican.

TomCat S (127)
Monday September 4, 2017, 1:07 pm
Thanks, hugs and stars.

JD, if the Democrats, who voted for Stein in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvanid had voted for Clinton, she would now be President.

JL, I never said that Clinton was a progressive, but she was the only way we could have saved ourselves from Trump. The Trump Reich is too high a price to pay for the pie-in-the-sky set to be smug about their purity.

Roslyn M (32)
Monday September 4, 2017, 5:50 pm

Janet B (0)
Monday September 4, 2017, 7:11 pm

Katie & Bill D (107)
Monday September 4, 2017, 9:17 pm
Oh Yes I agree Jim and TomCat we wouldn't have TRUMPY!
We would all be better OFF Believe it or Not!
Cannot go backward's as he is taking us.
thank you tomCat

TOM T (248)
Tuesday September 5, 2017, 11:29 am

TomCat S (127)
Tuesday September 5, 2017, 12:45 pm

Janet B (0)
Tuesday September 5, 2017, 8:05 pm

TomCat S (127)
Wednesday September 6, 2017, 12:36 pm
YVW Janet.

Danuta W (1251)
Sunday September 10, 2017, 3:52 am

Animae C (507)
Monday September 18, 2017, 7:54 pm
i vote Green 🍃 🌿🌴 🌲 🌳
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