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Open Thread - 11/8/2017

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Open Thread, video )

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown). If you would like me to send you cards with links to my articles, add me as a friend.


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Freya H (358)
Wednesday November 8, 2017, 12:59 pm
Trump's final year in office? Well, we can dream, can't we? The only problem is, if we kick his orange arse out of the Oval Office, guess what we get. It could be out of the frying pan and into the fire.

IMHO, it isn't just the huge number of guns contributing to gun violence, but our violent "cowboy" culture. Only when that changes will we see a reduction in shootings. However, changing that is going to take an ENORMOUS effort, and at least a generation to see even the least result.

GREAT cartoon! Far too many people who identify as Christians really know what their lord really said - or meant. As Mark Twain put it, if Jesus was alive today, the one thing he would not be is a Christian.

Joanne D (38)
Wednesday November 8, 2017, 1:27 pm
4:46 They say it's a succulent ... but it also has claws of its own. Be careful.

New ad from VoteVets. They want me to share it, and people here seem to like them.

Keith # 145 - He's talking of last year's Election Night, of course. I had to do a double take myself. You know, if it weren't for Russian co-conspirators, Donald wouldn't have any friends at all. Or family either. Possibly Barron. Tiffany? Mmmm...

TNY - Absolutely.

NYT - Multiple trolls have been in force recently (not here, but on other progressive sites) saying things like "It didn't work in Canada," and "It didn't work in Australia." Bull puckey. I mention it because if you comment elsewhere you may want to have a counter-reference handy, and I am not sharing particular links because if we separately goog le we are likelier to come up with different ones, and then we will be able to hit with multipls voices. (I am also coming across trolls sayin white males are "under-represented" among mass shooters. More bull puckey.

Cartoon - Take cover from exploding Republican heads if they see this!


Pat B (356)
Wednesday November 8, 2017, 3:13 pm
KO: He's so deep in the hole....! Humpty Dumpty is due to fall, and the wall he sits on will crumble as well.

NYer: He has stated what we already knew of this furuncle, and his calamity to this Nation. He is a plague, isn't he? Yes! he is!!

NYT: Very, very disturbing, and distressing. Living here deep in the 'Heart of TX'., one can see that, that even youngsters are encouraged to own a rifle, or gun to hunt wildlife. I have never owned a gun, and I'm not about to go out to buy one either. When dt lies and encourages violence through his words, those individuals listening are encouraged by his hateful rhetoric, and the NRA embraces it. It's very concerning, imho.

*Joanne: Excellent video. Word !!!!

Oh, no. Hope you start feeling better quickly. Tell Wendy HI. Hope that you have a relaxing evening, take care, and Thanks, Tom.


Ted W (127)
Wednesday November 8, 2017, 3:31 pm
Noted, forwarded and shared ultra-liberally across four networks!!!!RESIST!!Many thanks for posting, TomCat-hope you feel better soon!!

Walter F (129)
Wednesday November 8, 2017, 3:36 pm
Tom thanks for your news.Get plenty of vitamin C in your system and stay indoors and warm. .Beat that cold before it starts.

Animae C (506)
Wednesday November 8, 2017, 4:04 pm

Kathleen Mireault (211)
Wednesday November 8, 2017, 4:15 pm
Would have trouble with "not hating" warmongering republithugs...good thing am not Christian! Thx TC. Stay warm and well-hydrated and feel better fast! 🎼 💖

David C (110)
Wednesday November 8, 2017, 6:03 pm

Glennis W (395)
Wednesday November 8, 2017, 6:27 pm
Great video Joanne Hope you don't get a cold so hard to brush off this time of year. Take care and rest well Thank you for caring and sharing TomCat

Sheila D (28)
Wednesday November 8, 2017, 6:37 pm
3:48. Keith/#145: One can only hope Drumpf will be out of office by this time next year.

Yes, we have an astronomical amount of guns, and the gun industry isn't about to let a few armed assassins stop them from selling even more guns to whoever wants one. Doesn't matter if they're blind, mentally disturbed, on the no-fly list, terrorist, children, or those who "just" terrorize and beat their spouse and children. Doesn't look like much will change soon, either.

Thanks for the post, TomCat. Sorry to hear you're not feeling well. Lots of liquids (lemon in hot water with a little honey or agave is my favorite), lots of rest.


Peggy B (43)
Wednesday November 8, 2017, 8:00 pm

Mitchell D (87)
Wednesday November 8, 2017, 8:08 pm
Keith: "What a wonderful world," Louis sang, what a beautiful, and randomly marvelous world, I say!  The pieces are, or seem to be, falling into place, it seems...not holding my breath, though.
New Yorker: Great idea!  A CNN poll, as seen on tv at the gym, says that 64% of Americans believe that he is, essentially, full of BS.  Cool, at first glance, but that means that 36% of Americans, belong in the category of the 10% of Americans who believed  that Nixon was doing just a fine job, in the week before he resigned office!  Thirty six percent apparently have yet to notice not how often he lies, but THAT he lies...incessantly!
NYT: Amazing!  I expect that this arsenal creating is related to the NRA and the GOPigs screaming, again, and again, during Obamas' term, that he was "Coming for your guns!"  The munitions manufacturers had a blazing sales record each time that was trotted out by their puppets, I am willing to bet.

Colleen L (3)
Wednesday November 8, 2017, 8:23 pm
I was praying that if tRump is kicked out, we'd get tiny bit better till the next election? Like the cartoon. Thanks TomCat

Lona G (67)
Thursday November 9, 2017, 5:02 am
Keith Olbermann #145: Wouldn’t it be great that Drumpf’s fall from grace would be helped along by a man who is just as narcissistic and megalomaniacal as Drumpf is himself? But therein also lies the rub: Sater is so much like Drumpf he’ll probably lie his ass off to keep the spotlights on him, even if that spotlight is Mueller’s.

TNY: O(h Andy, if that were only true, the first and last year of Drumpf’s presidency all rolled into one. Or as golfer Drumpf would say: a hole in one. Let’s hope it is a very deep hole indeed Drumpf has dug himself.

NYT: The New York Times have published a number of truly excellent editorial op-eds since the Texas mass shooting; one with the number of days-hours-minutes and ticking seconds since the previous mass shootings the Republicans have refused to talk about “because it is too soon” all the way back to Sandy Hook, and this one. Both worth a read through if you haven’t used up all the free articles for this month. Based on facts (science and statistics) it debunks several myths and reasonable but wrong assumptions; it comes down to one thing and one thing only: too many guns. And the richer an American is the more guns he has. That should tell you something.

Hope you feel better soon, TomCat. Did you get your flu-shot yet?

Nita L (123)
Thursday November 9, 2017, 5:31 am
I wish Andy was right and that Pence was leaving with him. Loved the video Joanne. Thank you TomCat. Feel better soon.

pam w (139)
Thursday November 9, 2017, 8:56 am
TC...I'm a big believer in zinc every four hours to shorten the duration/avert a cold. Hope you're better.


Kimberly Wallace (0)
Thursday November 9, 2017, 11:04 am

Ed Site Issues V (198)
Thursday November 9, 2017, 11:14 am
S&N, Thanks

Ed Site Issues V (198)
Thursday November 9, 2017, 11:15 am
Sorry......Noted, Thanks

Lynn S (235)
Thursday November 9, 2017, 12:07 pm
Puzzle — 4:20  Some rather course salad?

Keith — Ah!  Another shoe!  May there be many more such that Drumpf and the Republican Reich are completely smothered by shoes!

The New Yorker — ““Trump is desperate for a legislative victory to prove that his final year as President was not a total disaster,” Logsdon said.”  That should read “…that his only year as President …”  That’s already too long!

NY Times — Republican “sensibilities” about it being too soon after a mass shooting to talk about gun control is just further proof that they have been caught with their hands in the ammo jar!  In this latest shooting in Texas, I heard tell of a man in the church pulled out his gun and shot the shooter thus stopping any further carnage.  I quite expect that Republicans will use this as their ‘go to’ example of how to fight fire with fire power.  “… Republican Ammosexuals are compiling arsenals. Given their propensity for “2nd Amendment Solutions”, that trend threatens us all.”  AMEN!!!

Cartoon — Now there’s a guy I can get behind . . . and do!  Telling it like it should be . . . everywhere!

Resist, Persist and Remove!!!

Silence is Consent!!!

You did not need to send that cold north with the last bit of chili!  I have the cold in the early stages so far but still not pleased or well.  I kept falling asleep at my keyboard after getting home from teaching last night, thus I am commenting this morning.  My little student turned 9 years old on Tuesday so I gave her a French/English dictionary for her birthday — a petit Larrouse, the best dictionary in my opinion.  She loves it!  Please get lots of rest with this cold you have.  The cold seems to drain all energy!

TomCat S (126)
Thursday November 9, 2017, 12:59 pm
Thanks and sick hugs to all.

Barb SiteIssues V (202)
Thursday November 9, 2017, 1:25 pm
Noted, Thank you

Janet B (0)
Thursday November 9, 2017, 7:31 pm

Katie & Bill D (107)
Thursday November 9, 2017, 8:15 pm
Hope you feel better son give it a few days! Rest Easy!

Winn A (179)
Friday November 10, 2017, 7:33 am
Hope you feel better TC - Thanks

TomCat S (126)
Friday November 10, 2017, 7:39 am
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