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Open Thread - 6/20/2018

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Joanne Dixon (38)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 12:55 pm
5:14 decisions, decisions. Salad or fish?

Fact check - I knew that from reading, but this is noce and clear.

Vox - I'd been avoiding listening to it - my eyes are wet enough and my throat is sore enough just from the facts. I could only lsten so long. If I heard that jerk who said We have an orchestra, all we need is a conductor," I think I would go ballistic. I made a bunch of graphics with children yesterday, and I pray that I will not be using all of them back to back. But ...

Portland - Oregon leads the way here. You must be proud, and rightly so. Can you imagine the chutzpah of cops telling them to let the poor ICE people go home to their families? Grrrrrrr.

Cartoon - I have mixed feelings. Unions are good, and even big unions are good, but the sheer size of the AFL-CIO gave Republicans a wedge to declare unions corrupt, and that hurt. I don't know what the answer is.


David C (110)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 1:29 pm
6:00.....but I'm at work and somewhat distracted.....thanks for the fact-checker video

Pat B (356)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 2:00 pm
WPC: This is sickening and heartbreaking. They're lying, they know it, and we do too.

Vox: I heard a few seconds last night, and I got choked up. Hurts my heart.

AN: Imagine that. Wanted to go home to their they know how that feels NOT to? ugh.

Cartoon: The AFL and the CIO merged after a long estrangement. Membership in the union peaked in 1979, when the AFL-CIO had nearly twenty million members. *wiki

It's raining again. lol Hi Wendy. Hope that you have a good rest of your day, take care, and Thanks, Tom.

Lona G (67)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 2:07 pm
I’m very short on time today, so I’ll skip right to our eight o’clock the news here which said that Drumpf is changing his mind. After blaming everything on the Democrats as he has consistently don these past days, he said he would “soon” sign decree ordering that children would no longer be separated from their parents, because this inhuman Democratic law needed to come to an end, but wouldn’t say what that would look like. Our newsreader immediately remarked that if the children would be incarcerated with their parents, that would be just the next human rights violation.
We’ll have to wait and see; Drumpf has promised al kinds of actions somewhere “in the near future” which never came to be. Perhaps he’s just trying to force Republican’s hand.

Alternet: Asking demonstrators against these cruel policies to let the ICE employees to go home to their families is pathetically naive and shows how large the gap between Drumpf’s reality and that of the majority of Americans has become. The DHS police was absolutely clueless.

Christeen A (353)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 2:37 pm
Happy hump day hugs to you as well.

Nita L (123)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 3:21 pm
VOX: I first heard this on Monday an I couldn't stop crying. I wanted to throttle the scum bag making fun of the crying children.
Alternet: You must be very proud of your state. I can't believe that the cops had the gall to ask the protesters to let the ICE Nazis leave to go home to their families.
Thank you TomCat.

Freya H (358)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 5:11 pm
Separating children from their parents so suddenly is horrifically traumatic. Many, if not all, of those children are already scarred for life. I read somewhere that some uruk-hai Border Patrol agent referred to their crying as a "symphony." What a slime! It is a symphony of unbearable pain.

Good for those protesters, not only daring to expose the "black" facility but also behaving themselves.

Yep, definitely a bad day for the GOP. Just about any day that's bad for the GOP, especially these days, is good for the rest of us.

Peggy B (43)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 5:44 pm

Glennis Whitney (395)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 6:18 pm
Thinking of you during these heatwaves Take care and rest well Thank you for caring and sharing TomCat

Mitchell D (87)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 6:31 pm
Alternet: We did it again TC:
WP: Simply more lies, just as any dictator worth his/her salt would engage in!
VC: TRAUMA, TRAUMA AND MORE TRAUMA is what we are inflicting on all of these people. They have come here because the U.S.A. USED TO BE great, had a stellar reputation for being humane to the disenfranchised: “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.” Emma Lazarus knew what it meant for America to be great!!!!!!!! I tear up just reading that line, under the present circumstances!
This is why Rachel Maddow broke down on TV. Because Trump is causing trauma, is perpetrating crimes against the most vulnerable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pam w (139)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 6:51 pm
Enjoying lunch with a very wise friend on Saturday....we both agreed that what the treasonous GROPER is doing is creating a generation of new TERRORISTS. These kids will most likely never be reunited with their parents. Just like the Palestinians....they'll enter their teen years, seething with resentment. And we all know what happens then. Wait and see.

Animae C (506)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 7:39 pm
Just found this....

"Trump Retreats After Fury Over Border Separations!
‘Zero tolerance’ policy remains and it is unclear how president’s executive order would affect the more than 2,300 children already separated from adults.
trump directed his administration on Wednesday to try to detain asylum-seeking families together, a reversal after weeks in which he insisted he had no choice but to separate children and adults who cross the border."

Sheila D (28)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 7:45 pm
4:19. WPC: No law, just our idiot in charge. I thought his wife had actually had some influence on him; not so. He didn't sign anything to help these families, just put them in prison together indefinitely. Not only is he a con and a pathological liar, he's also a blackmailer. Disgusting. He isn't talking to the Democrats, he isn't working with anyone; he wants his Wall and everything else is a distraction. VOTE BLUE!

VOX: I don't know how anyone could listen to even a minute of this without wanting all of it to stop. Those holding these children obviously have no empathy, no conscience, no love for humanity.

Alternet: Good for the protesters. Why should these ICE employees get to go home to their families when they cruelly separate immigrants from theirs?

Thanks for the post, TomCat. Hope the next few days are cooler.

Katie & Bill D (107)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 7:53 pm
Keep the pressure on as it happened today!
The one's that are here will not be reunited with families!!!!!!!???????
how long do they have to live like this??
and then he put a limit on his signature 20-21 Days???
what a Jerk!
make him be sorry, pressure him! keep calling!
do what it took to have him going a paper today! keep it going!
\He has no Heart!! NONE NONE
It's all about him what he Wants!
How do they know where the Port of Entry is?? I don't
Rachel M. even broke when she was to tell about the Kids yesterday! Oh yes it's hard to even think of.
Thank you for the Video's
Cohen is Turning on TRUMPY!!!!Good! he should have expected this!
Thank you TomCat
Be sure to go VOTE get rid of these nasty people that don;t even think of human life!

Colleen L (3)
Wednesday June 20, 2018, 8:10 pm
It's been a real disaster with the as*hole tRump and his reasoning on why this has been going on with separating children from their parents. He blames everyone except himself who's the main reason on this ever happening.. It made me sick hearing these children crying their hearts out. Now they're saying that even with tRump signing off with today, that with having over 2000 of these children it may be impossible to reconnect them with their parents.I hope he feels really good for himself for all of the serious problems he has now created.
Hope the weather gets better. Take care.
Thanks TomCat

JL A (281)
Thursday June 21, 2018, 6:33 am
First they came for BLM, then they came for Muslims seeking refuge, then they came for TPP holders (to return to unstable and violent countries), then they came for immigrants not carrying papers, then they came for people seeking asylum whose paperwork remained undone after decades, then they came for people fleeing certain death, then they took their children...
They made it possible by labeling them murderers and calling them calling them inferring they were insects or rats by using the word infest...words matter...
It can happen here
We cannot be silent and thus complicit

Ben O (140)
Thursday June 21, 2018, 9:05 am
Be cool and have a great weekend Tom...

Janis K (126)
Thursday June 21, 2018, 11:45 am

TomCat S (126)
Thursday June 21, 2018, 1:00 pm
Thanks and hugs to all! 😻

Winn Adams (179)
Thursday June 21, 2018, 1:01 pm
Vote BLUE in any Elections!

Lynn Squance (235)
Thursday June 21, 2018, 1:50 pm
@ JLA --- Sounds familiar! When will Drumpf come for us?

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Martin Niemöller

Lynn Squance (235)
Thursday June 21, 2018, 1:56 pm
Puzzle --- 3:58 No fishies, no salad, no nothing for you Puddy Tat!

WaPo — “There is no law that requires families to be separated.” — Of course there isn’t. Separation is just another Drumpf alternate fact aka a big lie . . . a real WHOPPER (not the Burger King kind!) I was watching an segment of TRMS on an MSN feed Tuesday when another video loaded, a video about the reasoning behind the separations. I was gobsmacked when it was announced that the separations were part of an orchestrated plan, a political stunt by the Drumpf régime. This morning, AlterNet has this article which corroborates what I initially saw on the video:

“Jonathan Lemire, the White House correspondent for the Associated Press, told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that Trump enacted the policy — which he later blamed on Democrats — to intentionally ignite another political firestorm. …

“In our reporting, he was telling people around him that he thought this would be a good cultural war, kind of victory here, akin to the NFL players kneeling for the national anthem,” Lemire said.

The president and attorney general Jeff Sessions admitted they hoped the detained children would force Democrats to agree to fund a border wall, along with other Trump immigration priorities, but instead he signed an executive order to end the separations.”

Now who is playing political games??? Not the Democrats as Drumpf says.


Vox — The voices of innocence being used in political games by Drumpf and Republicans. I’ll say what I’ve been thinking . . . there is a special place in hell for Drumpf and his régime for using the innocent in a political game!

AlterNet — There was video of a protest going on in Ohio at the office of Rob Portman (R) by 3 women, all mothers. A 4th woman was arrested before getting into the building, and the other 3 were arrested shortly after which in the video I saw, they were prepared for and expected.

This act of civil disobedience, which in my view should be called moral obedience, along with the protests in Oregon and elsewhere should be lauded.

So this is how the US nazi (Republican) party acts . . . stifling dissent, condemning innocent children, and on and on. There is no morality for winning at any price! As I said above, there is a special place in hell for Drumpf and his régime for using the innocent in a political game!


Cartoon — I have never been a union person, however they have been very beneficial for workers and thus consumers.

Resist, Persist, Remove!!!

Silence is Consent!!!

A long and tiring day yesterday for me. It started just after midnight with my neighbour and her 13 year old daughter screaming at each other. I went over to make sure nobody was dead yet, although the daughter did assault her mother. What a mess!!! It continued after I left. At 2:30 there was a police car in front of my place, I am assuming someone else called police on the mother/daughter. This has been an ongoing battle for several years. Both need counselling and an intervention by professionals. I finally got some sleep about 4:00 but then had to be up for physio. By the time I got home after teaching, to say I was wasted is an understatement. To boot, it was hot and muggy. Today is cloudy so I hope it will be less muggy and not hot. We’ll see.

Janet B (0)
Thursday June 21, 2018, 7:18 pm

TomCat S (126)
Friday June 22, 2018, 1:09 pm
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