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US Nears 4,000 Dead in Iraq

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When the 1,000th American died in September 2004, the insurgency was just gaining steam. The 2,000th death came as Iraq held its first elections in decades, in October 2005.


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Ginger S (115)
Sunday March 16, 2008, 6:20 pm
How many more lives have to be taken.????This is so heartbreaking. thank you for submitting Shandril!!

Past Member (0)
Monday March 17, 2008, 9:01 am
They only count deaths by war action. What about the many more who will become seriously ill with such things as leukemia, cancer and psycholigical afflictions such as PTS? Who counts these? And anyone cares to remind me again why the US had to go and set them straight?

Gorgeous H (142)
Monday March 17, 2008, 2:22 pm
This heading is SICKENING ...there is NO mention of the over one million
people the USA CHOSE to MURDER!!

These marines had a choice. They could have refused to go and gone to prison rather than do Bush's bidding for oil.Instead they have murdered raped, tortured.....destroyed. WHAT??? Do you THINK the Iraq people don't count as you think they 'invited' us over to slaughter them? This f**king blind patriotism makes me want to vomit.

Mary Riley (987)
Monday March 17, 2008, 4:04 pm
So what is anyone doing Wednesday??? The fifth anniversary of the invasion. Look in your newspaper, you can find a rally to attend, a march to join. Are you willing to go to jail for your principals? Or just talk about them?
If we don't end this war, it will be the end of the united states as we know it.


Marian E (152)
Monday March 17, 2008, 5:14 pm

There will be more deaths regardless of who we elect since all the candidates have indicated they will continue the war. And.....if the current plans to get another started with Iran continue, not only will the civilian population begin to take note of the death toll, but it will certainly escalate and may even wind up enacting an emergency draft. (We are in deep feces here.)

Thank you.

Embers S (11)
Monday March 17, 2008, 6:31 pm
It's so sad to contemplate all the casualties of this war... My thoughts keep going back to - oil, it's all about the oil.

Henry Rockwood (4)
Monday March 17, 2008, 7:04 pm
Last Friday Pentagon officials announced that there is no reasonable proof that Saddam ever met with or had discusssions with anyone from Al-Quida before we invaded Iraq. OK, no WMDs, no Al-Quida. The whole invasion was based on lies.
Any reasonable court of law, not stacked by the Bush administration, wouild surely rule that if one's lies caused the death of 10s of thousands, one would have to be held accountable.
President Bush, Vice President Cheney and all members, past and present, of the administration who pushed us into the illegal invasion of Iraq through their lies are guilty of the murder of all persons, American and others who have died as a result.
Further more there is reason to believe that their lies also constitute Treason as the invasion of Iraq deflected us from what should have been our primary goal - the capture of Ossama Bin Laudin and other top Al-Quida officials. The reason for this is that Bush and others do not want these people caputered and brought to trail because things would come to light that this administration does not want you to know. Ask yourself why the President remained so calm in that school classroom when he was first told that an airplane had hit the World Trade Center. It was as if he had expected it. Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to have terminated the classroom session and gone out to seek more information and to offer assistance even if one thought it were just a horrible accident? BUT NO! George W. Bush just sat there like nothing out of the ordinary had happened.
To add insult to injury, the cost of the illegal invasion of Iraq is the primary cause for the weakening of the US economy. Of course there are other causes such as the failure to properly oversee the banking and credit industry, or to properly regulate the oil industry; but again all this is in keeping with the current administration's plan to ruin this country so that only the very wealthy have any chance of weathering the high costs of living which we are just beginning to see.
We must demand that Bush, Cheney et all be held accountable and brought to justice.

Gorgeous H (142)
Monday March 17, 2008, 7:20 pm
Oh...and PLEEEZE...STOP calling it a 'war'! It ISN'T!!! We were NEVER attacked.

Past Member (0)
Monday March 17, 2008, 7:57 pm
At some point a person has to look at the direction they've chosen and question themselves as to whether or not it was the right or wrong decision.

Iraq was a wrong decision. What have we gained? Did we belong there in the first place? How long will this occupation last? Why has the U.S supported more dictators and warmongers than any so-called "terrorist" nation? Where will this nonsense all end?

Melissa D (284)
Monday March 17, 2008, 8:38 pm
This is a very bad thing... but some very good replies to it... I have to say I am in agreement with what has been posted here already, but

Mary Riley has stated what needs to be stated RIGHT NOW:
So what is anyone doing Wednesday??? The fifth anniversary of the invasion. Look in your newspaper, you can find a rally to attend, a march to join. Are you willing to go to jail for your principals? Or just talk about them?
If we don't end this war, it will be the end of the united states as we know it.

Please, join in protest!!!! Make a stand!! This is supposed to be OUR country, it is time to take it back!!!!!

Sandra M Z (114)
Monday March 17, 2008, 9:49 pm
"This is a war that most Americans continue to feel they don't have to make sacrifices for."

They also have no idea what their true costs will be. Noted with sadness for all the loss of life and the families of all peoples worldwide killed in this war.

Also, let's include the over 30,000 maimed and women(plus all others worldwide) who have returned home. All the Iraqi civilians maimed. Sadly, the U.S. troops are probably an intergral part of the Healthcare industries profit plans. Gross.

Also, I ran into two women from the American Friends Service Committee(Quaker). They had fantastic Green T-shirts they wore to the St.Pat. Parade. Across the Front in (blood)RED~ Iraq War $720million $$$ a DAY, and on the back, more War facts. They said they were interviewed by every T.V. station, I hope the story was actually aired. I'm going to order a T shirt. They are selling them, $10., get one now and wear it!, here is the website or Noted Shandril, thanks, and great comments by all.

Gorgeous H (142)
Tuesday March 18, 2008, 12:12 am
Needless to say..I will not be participating...the focus is only on the (few)Americans who CHOSE to go to Iraq.

Hi Anita,

I didn't mean to discount the huge loss that has been suffered by the people of Iraq. The emails that come from MoveOn directly do cover some of the scope of this impact. Thanks for letting me clarify. We will be making that more clear on Wednesday.

We are still looking for additional volunteers for Wednesday's two events.

Thanks again,

ANITA H wrote:
Hi Tracy!
I am just wondering why you would mention only 4000 people when over one million Iraquis have been murdered...Just curious.

It is only with the heart one sees rightly ..what is essential is invisible to the eye. (Antoine de Saint-Exupery)

Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:45:33 -0700
Subject: Palm Springs, Wed March, 19th - 5 years : Enough is Enough **Volunteers Needed**

Dear Friends,

One week from today, on March 19th, the 5th Anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, we will show our support for a responsible end to the occupation of Iraq.
Please make yourselves as available as possible and offer your peaceful and compassionate presence to show your support. Help us keep the focus on this message: U.S. Out of Iraq Now. We love our troops, bring them home!
We plan an active day with the following two (2) events.

1) We will first visit the office of our Representative, Mary Bono-Mack at 12:00 noon. This is just down the street from where we hold our ongoing Peace Vigils. We'll intially gather on the sidewalk @ 707 E Tahquitz, between Calle El Segundo and Avenida Caballeros in front of the Congressional offices. This is in the building complex where the Regal Cinemas, and Blame it on Midnight restaurant are located.
We will be reading the names of those Military Members from California that have died in Iraq over the last five years. I need about 8 volunteers to help with the reading of names. I also need a couple people to help carry an empty flag draped coffin (not to worry, it’s not an actual coffin and is very lightweight). If you want to work this into your lunch hour, please tweak your schedule, since the reading of names will require some time, because California makes up over 10% (approx 425) of the close to 4,000 now killed. Our objective is to show the true impact of this tragic loss.
Please contact me and volunteer at (760) 325-5112.

2) Secondly, we will have a Peace Vigil in the evening at 6:00 p.m. at Tahquitz and Palm Canyon (our usual spot at the Welwood Murray Library). Note this is posted on but their standard time is 7:00 p.m. We have been holding ours at this earlier time and will eventually move to 7:00 p.m. as the weather improves and the days get longer. Please show up at 6:00 p.m. and stay as long as you wish, we typically are there for at least an hour and have coffee after. Your help throughout the day is very much appreciated!!

In Peace, Justice, and Hope,

Tracy (760) 325-5112

Gorgeous H (142)
Tuesday March 18, 2008, 12:24 am
For more information visit
Published by AFSC’s Iraq Program, 1501 Cherry Street, Philadelphia, PA 19102
The Iraqi Cost of War
“The aftermath of war in Iraq, where thousands
upon thousands may die or spend the rest of their
lives in pain and wretchedness, will be greater
unrest in the Middle East and hatred of
America for generations to come.”
Paul Lacey
AFSC Presiding Clerk, September 2002
“More than two million Iraqis have fled their homes, and the exodus is accelerating.”
Ahmed Al Fatlawi
Najaf Human Rights Center, April 2007
“The displacement of Iraqis from Iraq is now the fastest-growing refugee crisis in the world.”
Refugees International, July 2007
“The needs of Iraqi refugees and internally displaced
are enormous and growing by the day, so, too, is the
strain on host governments and communities
struggling to cope with the massive numbers of
Iraqis who have fled their homes.”
António Guterres
UN High Commissioner for Refugees, July 2007
“The flight of Iraqis has become the largest forced displacement in the history of the Middle East.”
José Riera and Andrew Harper
Forced Migration Review, July 2007
Fleeing Iraq: Many Iraqi refugees have moved to neighboring countries. Refugees International reports that 2.5 million have left Iraq.
Refugees, Internally Displaced, and Casualities Since the US Invasion
The Iraq War and US occupation have been a catastrophe for Iraqis. The violence has touched every corner of the country, killed hundreds of thousands, and displaced millions. Estimates of the war’s costs differ in magnitude but agree that the impact has been devastating. Casualty figures will continue to grow as military operations, sectarian militia violence and a declining humanitarian situation prevail.
Estimates of the civilian Iraqi loss of life:
- Opinion Research Business, a British polling firm, conducted a survey of Iraqi homes to calculate the death toll. More than a quarter of Iraqi adults have had a family member murdered and 23% have had a family member kidnapped in the last three years.

They estimate that MORE THAN A MILLION Iraqis have died due to the violence. (Sept. 2007,
- Using statistical methods tested in other conflict zones, a Johns Hopkins study published last year estimated 655,000 war related deaths since March 2003. That is for about 2.5% of Iraq’s population. (11 Oct. 2006,
- In November of 2006, Iraq’s Ministry of Health put civilian deaths at 150,000 since the March 2003 invasion. The numbers were based on an average of 100 deaths a day as recorded by hospitals and morgues. They have subsequently stopped reporting casualty totals. (9 Nov. 2006, International Herald Tribune)
- Iraq Body Count, a website that reports casualties based on news sources, counted civilian deaths between 73,498 and 80,116. (24 Sept. 2007,
For more information visit
Published by AFSC’s Iraq Program, 1501 Cherry Street, Philadelphia, PA 19102
Leaving Iraq in Search of a Peace
Half of the Iraqis displaced by the war and US occupation, more than 2.5 million men, women and children, have left Iraq. Most have moved to neighboring states ill-equipped for the influx. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) reports, “the two countries caring for the biggest proportion of Iraqi refugees – Syria and Jordan – have still received next to nothing in bilateral help”. (6 July 2007, UNHCR) Jordan, the country with highest per capita number of refugees in the world, started to restrict access after one in eight of its residents were Iraqis. On September 10, 2007, Syria announced that Iraqis would need visas to enter the country.
Internal Refugees
Internally displaced people (IDPs) are families who have been forced from their homes and are unable or unwilling to leave the country. Many of Iraq’s IDPs have left their homes because of violence from occupation troops, threats of abductions or assassinations, or the need for food, water, healthcare and education. “If the situation continues to deteriorate, we’re going to see hundreds of thousands more displaced,” said Andrew Harper for the UNHCR. The agency estimates that 2 million Iraqis are internally displaced and predicts that as many as 300-700 thousand more may be displaced by the end of 2007. This resettlement of ethnic-religious groups has not been stemmed by the US military occupation, and the tragedy of the displacement is further compounded by the inability of the Government of Iraq, because of security, logistics and funds, to provide humanitarian assistance.
The security situation has forced NGOs to work outside of Iraq with poor information and inconsistent aid delivery, leading to a deterioration in IDP quality of life:
- The UN has identified the crisis in Iraq as a “complex emergency”. Other regions with this designation include East Timor, North Korea, and Chechnya. (25 Sept. 2007,
- It is estimated that 40% of Iraq’s professional class and 35% of doctors have left Iraq since 2003. This is what is frequently referred to as a “brain drain,” making rebuilding efforts particularly difficult. (2 Nov. 2006, Brookings Institution)
- Nationwide class attendance in Iraq is close to 78%. Comparatively, only 55% of Iraqi refugees in Lebanon and 13% in Syria go to school. (June 2007, Forced Migration Review)
- The collapse of infrastructure since the US led invasion has been devastating for basic government services. Only 32% of Iraqis have access to drinking water and just 19% live in areas with working sewers. (June 2007, Forced Migration Review)
A Worldwide Crisis
Despite numerous visa restrictions, 100,000 Iraqis have moved out of the Middle East. Sweden, previously one of the most generous countries to Iraqi refugees in Europe, reversed its policy of offering amnesty after a court ruled that Iraq was not an armed conflict zone. Other countries cap the number of visas available to Iraqis. Through 2006, the United States offered only 800 amnesty visas. Countries with large populations of Iraqis include: Germany - 52,900, U.K. - 22,300, Netherlands - 21,800, Sweden - 21,100, Australia - 11,100, and Denmark - 10,700. (April 2007, UNHCR)
Notes from map: (1) UNICEF News Note 7 July 2007, (2) CIA World Factbook 11 July 2007, (3) UNHCR Statistics April 2007.

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Tuesday March 18, 2008, 2:39 am

I agree with Anita, this title is SHOCKING because it makes no mention of the other-than-US victims of the violence there. They are EXCLUDED from the figure as though their deaths didn't count !

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Tuesday March 18, 2008, 2:52 am

Thanks for your clarification, Tracy, and thanks, Sandra, for your comment about the American Friends Service Committee - they are great people, doing great work ! There are quite a few important struggles and campaigns to get involved with on their site.

The Antoine de Saint-Exupery quote is beautiful, thanks for that AniTa.
And for reminding us that US servicemen-& women- have been responsible for killing, maiming and torturing innocent Iraqis and, let me add, Afghans.

But it is important to mark the anniversary of this illegal invasion and occupation so that people continue to talk about it, so that the campaign, the economy, and other events don't simply wipe Iraq off our TV screens and our minds.

Ikey Galacticca (284)
Tuesday March 18, 2008, 5:59 am
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