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Does The Congress Represent Americans : The Case With Israel


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Abdessala
- 3263 days ago - informationclearinghouse.info
What accounts for this extraordinary discrepancy between the views of Americans and the views of the congressmen who allegedly represent them?



   

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Abdessalam Diab (145)
Wednesday July 7, 2010, 12:21 am
American Opinion On Israel - And The Congress's

By Andrew Sullivan

July 06, 2010 "The Atlantic" -- Frank Luntz's focus-group assessment of US reaction to the assault on the Mavi Marmara is striking. Some of the Israeli propaganda is simply not working. Take, for example, Charles Krauthammer's claim that "there is a larger issue here. What exactly is the humanitarian crisis that the flotilla was actually addressing? There is none. No one is starving in Gaza," or Netanyahu's statement that "There’s no shortage of food, there’s no shortage of medicine, there’s no shortage of other goods," or Ehud Barak's view that "There is no hunger in Gaza and no humanitarian crisis."

According to Luntz,

56% of Americans agree with the claim that there is a humanitarian crisis in Gaza; and 43% of Americans agree with the claim that people in Gaza are starving.

More to the point, only 34% of Americans supported the Israeli operation against the Flotilla. That compares with 71 percent of members of Congress signing the AIPAC-backed resolution defending the raid. What accounts for this extraordinary discrepancy between the views of Americans and the views of the congressmen who allegedly represent them?

Hasbarapocalypse — Leaked Frank Luntz memo:
Israeli public diplomacy in US on Flotilla failed dismally

By Didi Remez

July 06, 2010 "Coteret" -- The Israel Project (TIP), an American Hasbara outfit, commissioned Republican political consultant Frank Luntz to examine the effectiveness of Israel’s public diplomacy in the US on the Flotilla debacle. TIP gave the memo to the Prime Minister’s Office, where someone promptly leaked it to Chico Menashe, Channel Ten TV News diplomatic affairs correspondent.

Luntz’s findings are grim. Here’s a summary:

56% of Americans agree with the claim that there is a humanitarian crisis in Gaza;
43% of Americans agree with the claim that people in Gaza are starving;
[Only] 34% of Americans support the Israeli operation against the Flotilla;
[Only] 20% of Americans “felt support” for Israel following announcement of easing of Gaza closure.
Menashe wraps:

The figures are troubling and worrisome. If that is the situation with our great friend the US, it is easy to imagine the situation in other, somewhat less sympathetic countries.

Below is the full translated transcript of the report. An embedded link to the video is appended at bottom.

—–

Frank Luntz analyses Netanyahu’s media performance in the flotilla affair

The figures are troubling and worrisome. If that is the situation with our great friend the US, it is easy to imagine the situation in other, somewhat less sympathetic countries.

Channel Ten TV News, July 1 2010 20:38

Yaacov Eilon (host): Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is considered to make an extremely persuasive presentation in the world press. But a professional analysis by a US expert presented yesterday to his senior aides strongly criticizes him. Netanyahu’s messages on the flotilla caused more harm than good. Our political correspondent Chico Menashe has obtained the report.

Chico Menashe: Criticism of Prime Minister Netanyahu’s current PR messages and Israeli PR in general comes from the international elite of media consultants and pollsters and from the mouth of Frank Luntz, considered one of the leading American political consultants, a Republican pollster, a consultant to many governments throughout the world and to dozens of the biggest corporations in the US. He was asked by the Jewish organization The Israel Project to check the opinions of the American public on the messages Israel issued to the world during and after the flotilla events. The result is a harsh document that primarily criticizes the media strategy of the person considered Israel’s number one propagandist in the world, Prime Minister Netanyahu.

Netanyahu: Once again Israel faces hypocrisy and a biased rush to judgment.

Chico Menashe: Every time Israeli speakers begin with accusing the international community, writes Luntz, they lose their audience [emphasis mine]. For example, Netanyahu’s comments after the flotilla about the world hypocrisy were rejected by most of the American participants who listened to them. The findings were presented last night to senior members of Netanyahu’s Bureau. Luntz checked the opinions with focus groups, not a poll. He warns of a dangerous slide in the public opinion of the only country considered pro-Israeli, the U.S. Israel misses simple opportunities to change world public opinion, he writes, and the consequences are significant. The American public increasingly hesitates to accept arguments that support Israeli positions.

Ehud Barak: There is no hunger in Gaza and no humanitarian crisis.

Netanyahu: There’s no shortage of food, there’s no shortage of medicine, there’s no shortage of other goods.

Chico Menashe: Luntz says Israel must immediately stop using the argument that there is no hunger and no humanitarian crisis in Gaza. He says this fatally destroys Israel’s credibility in light of the images on the television screens. Israel must admit that there is a problem, he says, to gain the listeners’ sympathy [emphasis mine]. Luntz finds the troubling figure that 56% of participants agree with the claim that there is a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, and no less astonishing is that 43% of participants from the American public agree with the claim that people in Gaza are starving. But even lifting the closure that was supposed to improve Israel’s image missed the opportunity, according to Luntz.

Netanyahu: Yesterday an important decision was made by the security cabinet. Its meaning is clear. On the one hand, allowing civilian goods into Gaza, and on the other hand maintaining the military blockade of Hamas.

Chico Menashe: The statement by Netanyahu’s bureau of lifting the closure missed the opportunity to gain support in international public opinion [emphasis mine]. Only 20% of the Americans polled felt support of Israel following the statement. According to Luntz, this is the summary of the flotilla damage in American public opinion: Only 34% of the American public support the Israeli operation against the flotilla, and he says that is a dangerously low percentage.



 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday July 7, 2010, 12:51 am
Congress represents the interests of the State of Israel. Otherwise, AIPAC will ensure the demise of anyone who does otherwise... many examples have been mentioned. James Traficant.. Cynthia McKinney.. and so on!

ATW
 

Mack David (100)
Wednesday July 7, 2010, 12:55 am
Abdessalam,
Thanks for this post .......
I will keep a check on it to see how You are faring....
 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Wednesday July 7, 2010, 1:08 am
I stopped believing Israel a long time ago. If they say it's a dry day in Jerusalem, my first instinct is to think there's probably a flood. It took a LONG time, a lot of reading and looking outside the box, because for a long time the only info available to me was the pro-Israel puppet American press. Once I began paying attention, looking all over the Net, checking facts, I went from the standard PR beliefs, "Hey Israel moved in, made the desert bloom with hard work, and THEN the Arabs wanted it back< and they had done nothing in centuries.," to "You can always tell when Israel is lying: they're saying something." If it was up to me, after learning how much there are incidents like Rachael Corrie massacres of women and children - Israel would never see any more support from America.

Ian
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday July 7, 2010, 1:18 am
In addition to ATW comment,

to know who run the vast majority of US television networks, the printed press, the Hollywood movie industry, the book publishing industry, and the recording industry. and directed them for Israel interests.

Search in Google search about "Seven Jewish Americans"
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday July 7, 2010, 1:19 am
Oh thanks Abdessalam. good to hear from you again.
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Wednesday July 7, 2010, 1:54 am
AIPAC controls the USA congress and politicians.How can one believe that USA congress represent Americans.USA congress ,in my humble point of view,only represents the greedy corporations.If it really represent Americans and is keen to protect US interests ,it would stop supporting Israel.USA interests are not with Israel.IT is with the Arabs.If US congress wants to protects the American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan it must stop the aid provided to Israel.The ugly image of of USA in the Middle East , Islamic world and even in Europe and Latin America is because of the generous aid and support of Israel's occupation and crimes committed by the Zionist entity day and night.This also applies to what is called terrorist threat in USA.
 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Wednesday July 7, 2010, 4:03 am
Abdessalam,

Those of us on the Net who read, pay attention, look for more information (libraries can find fascinating books) can finally learn a little truth. The knowledge only fits together right one way. Congress serves those who help them get elected, who make make monetary contributions, or promise jobs after congress that will make them millionaires, or who offer them other power. Sometimes it's a great investment for a corporation: a weekend or a week on a tropical island, free food and drinks and pretty girls, and that can get them a billion dollar contract. That contract might destroy a lot of jobs amongst those who elected him, but that's how the business works. Or a $10,000 total contribution might get a company an exclusive contract worth tens of millions to supply an inferior item to the military, and that's an open door for more contracts. It may cost a few soldier's lives, but that's business. And it turns out that not only is Israel supposedly "the only country in the Oil countries of the Middle East that's on our side (they're not; they're on their own side), but an amazing number of references say that the Mossad is famous internationally for being willing to assassinate almost anyone, to sabotage a project, an election, whatever is necessary. Time and again I run across that. And there are linkages to the highest levels of the "elites," the "bankers bakers." I understand they prefer the term "Neo-Aristocrats" now. That means the old aristocrats with "neo" in front of it.

We the People of America have NO ONE representing us except each other, and right now there are simply too few. Most people who get their news from Fox or MSNBC think there are two political parties in America, and that how we vote makes a difference. They think that all these new medicines Big Pharma sells are to make us stop being sick, to make us healthy. The thought that our government constantly lies to us, that there really is a shadow government, that the "conspiracy theorists" are actually right is, to a great many people, absolutely impossible to believe. They still believe all the lies they're told as long as they come from the right places, the right agencies. If my country doesn't wake up soon, we will lose this latest and deadliest version of the class struggle.

Ian
 

Yvonne Mendes Siblini (218)
Wednesday July 7, 2010, 7:27 am
Interesting question.
 

TERRANCE N (65)
Wednesday July 7, 2010, 11:41 am
Thanks Abdessalam. I guarandee you, as we write, the Zionist are trying to find a way to get control of the internet like they(the Zionist) control the corporate mainstream media and radio. Go to www.freedocumentaries.org and scroll down to "Peace, propaganda, and the promised land". You will get a glimpse of how the Zionist control the images of Americans regarding Israel.

Any politician who goes against Israel pays the ultimate price of having a candidate with huge amounts of money from the Israeli lobby ran against them. This money is basically counterfeit paper printed by the federal reserve, another Zionsit entity. Wall street, another Zionist entity, also robs the American people by dealing in fictitous wealth while creating nothing of substance. This fictitious currency is also used against candidates and the American people.

This is why we have some many millionaire and billionaire politicians in our electoral system. This has the effect of crowding out true peoples representation. These groups consist of the far right religious fanatics, the Zionist neocons, and the corporate elite. Fox news, ABC radio are represented by the far right; CNN, MSNBC, PBS, CSPAN, WNYW radio, and others are Zionsit controlled entities.

The internet kind of sneaked up on the Zionist neocons, and the far right; but they are catching up. The internet is responsible for Obama. After Obama won the Iowa caucus, Major money like Zionist Goldman Sachs started to back him. Obama chose to be the champion of big money (Goldman Sachs) and not the people, (internet) who is responsible for him being president. I beleive he will live to regret his choice of big money over the people.
 

Ellyn S (48)
Wednesday July 7, 2010, 11:58 am
Here is a relevant comment (#41) from fluffy-the-cat from the World News Daily Information Clearing House site:

A few years ago, 70% (at least) wholeheartedly supported Israel almost no matter what. So, when did that change?

Here is when it changed for me: 2006. Gazans elected Hamas in what were called open honest free elections. But then I found out Israel created Hamas. Then, Lebanon; using the pretext of "fighting Hezbolla," Israel clearly showed itself wanting to steal Lebanon's Litani River. How do I know this? Because the IDF's plans were to go no further than the Litani. Finally, it was the news that Palestinian Christians and Messianic Jews were being persecuted in Israel, and then finding out what the Talmud and the Ultra-Orthodox rabbis said about Christ. Now, it is Israelis (seemingly the majority of them) acting like Nazis. what more do I need?
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Thursday July 8, 2010, 12:58 pm
Sending a Green Star is a simple way to say "Thank you"
You cannot currently send a star to TERRANCE because you have done so within the last week
Of course I can send a GOLD star instead.Thank you Terrence.
 

Terry B (649)
Friday July 9, 2010, 6:11 am
Abdessalam, you know I always respect your well-thought-out, up-close and on-site views of the situation in the Middle East, even where we disagree, but I caution you against trying to analyse the American public from halfway around the world through unbiased "clearing house" sites.

And never overestimate the intelligence of the American people. There was a revealing survey conducted over the Independence Day weekend that showed that the majority of Americans, particularly the younger ones, did not know that the United States received its independence by breaking away from Great Britian. Some even thought that American gained its independece from Japan and China!

If you are a betting man and want to make a few dollars on your next visit to the USA, ask any random person to name all 50 states or point them out on a map. You can grant almost any odds. Easy money.

Buncha dopey evolution deniers, can;t depend on what they think about anything, even in an unbiased survey.
 

Bonnie A (76)
Friday July 9, 2010, 7:10 am
Thanks Abdessalam! We have one place in America where we do get unbiased Middle East news and that is on LinkTV. It's only on DiredtTV and Dish, but they and Democracy Now actually talk to the people who are going through what's happening. Sadly, most Americans get their news from FOX tv and the Wall Street Journal both owned by Rupert Murdoch--nuf said!
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Friday July 9, 2010, 1:06 pm
Please go to this site and sign the pledge

http://www.standfordemocracy.com/ratify/

FOR THE RIGHT OF THE 98% OF AMERICANS TO CHOOSE THEIR REPRESENTATIVES

Overturn Citizens United:

Amend the Constitution to protect America from unlimited corporate spending on our elections by overturning the Supreme Court's decision giving corporations the same First Amendment rights as people.
Fair elections now:

Pass the Fair Elections Now Act, providing public financing to candidates who are supported by small donors so they can compete with corporate-backed and self-funded candidates.
Lobbyist Reform Act:

Pass legislation to end the overwhelming influence of corporate lobbyists by: prohibiting individuals from switching from corporate lobbying to government service, or vice-versa, within a 5-year period; stopping corporate lobbyists from giving gifts and providing free travel to government officials; and posting online the attendees and content of all meetings between lobbyists and government officials.
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Friday July 9, 2010, 1:37 pm
I am really very astonished from Terry comment.
1 - In USA and in Cuyahoga community college in particular where a shared a symposium about Africa in mid 1980's an American woman was introduced to me as an expert in African affairs.When I asked ,I discovered that she spent few months in Africa. When she she was given the stage to speak she showed a lot of ignorance of Africa and the relations between north Africa and Africa south Sahara.Her ignorance about the struggle for freedom in Africa was so obvious that representatives of other African countries were shocked and she was interrupted and left the symposium saying that her knowledge seems to be too old.I lived in USA for more than four years and can't pretend that I am an expert in American affairs . In Yale university ,in September 1983 I was asked " Who do you think will be the next president? As a diplomat representing a foreign country I had to stick to diplomatic and international tradition of not interfering in other countries affairs.However I can say that corporations and lobbies representing non American interest like AIPAC is very influential because of the financial support they give to certain candidates who ,when elected,will certainly serve the interests of their supporters regardless of the fact that this may contradict the interests of regular Americans.
2 - Saying that Americans are not aware of their history and can't even know the names of USA states gives me the impression that you simply mean that Americans can't freely vote for the person who can really represent them and defend their interests and this justifies letting corporations and lobbyists do it for them.This,I Am afraid is a very dangerous situation and shows why the Israeli President once said that Israel controls USA.
 

Bob A (47)
Friday July 9, 2010, 2:15 pm
Terry, I think you touched a very interesting subject here: the intelligence of American people. I would say, don't judge it by listing all 50 states. Judge it by the government and the life style, they were capable of building. So far, that was the best possible models in the World, with freedom of a person and freedom of the business enterprise being in the center.

 

Bracha Katz (31)
Friday July 9, 2010, 4:39 pm
Most Americans support Israel,

http://www.theisraelproject.org/atf/cf/%7B84dc5887-741e-4056-8d91-a389164bc94e%7D/JUNE_2010_NATIONAL_POLL_QUESTIONS.PDF?tr=y&auid=6582340

Nearly two-thirds majority believe relations with Israel are important to the U.S. national interest
The United States shouldn’t set out terms of the settlement between Israel and the Palestinians
A majority blame activists for the Gaza flotilla incident
Americans continue to stand with Israel,” said Neil Newhouse of Public Opinion Strategies
 

Ray Sol (0)
Friday July 9, 2010, 5:11 pm
Sorry Abdessalam and Ian, but you are both wrong. Your words sound like the ones Hitler and the Catholic's used when they tried to destroy Jews in WW2. Right wing fundamentalists/nazis are influencing republican congress members, who then stonewall any progress in the middle-east. They need to keep the big war machine going, so they can make money off young American lives. Who do you think bankrolls republican members of congress? It is not the Jewish community in America. Israel and American are both Democracies. And as long as Israel remains a Democracy, they have every right to defend themselves. Would the both of you deny America the right to defend it's self? If you do, then you can both go to hell.
 

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Friday July 9, 2010, 11:24 pm
Unfortunately, our goverment is a puppet of Israel.
 

eileen k (1)
Saturday July 10, 2010, 12:05 am
Sorry, Tara and Ray; but, Bdessalam and Ian are correct; they know exactly what they're talking about. Their statements are not lies; nor, are they make believe. Over 56% of Americans believe that there IS a serious humanitarian crisis in Gaza; over 43% believe Gazans are starving.

The murderous raid launched by the IDF on the six-ship flotilla in the darkness of May 31 is what has raised the wrath of citizens across the US - from Washington, DC all the way to San Francisco and Los Angeles; and, NO amount of Zionist propaganda can ever erase it. You and Tara can take that to the bank, Ray. It's time the two of you began studying Middle East History 101.
 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Saturday July 10, 2010, 12:30 am
I have nothing to say again Jews. Who I loathe are the Zionists in charge of Israel. They are NOT "defending themselves." 1,300 dead for 2 injured is not "defense," aside from which, they are stealing not just the land, but these people's lives.

Ian
 

Edward M (8)
Saturday July 10, 2010, 3:23 am
The USA has never had any trouble in supporting reactionary behaviour in other Countries, but only whilst it is in it's own interests to do so. If Israel ever becomes a real liability, it will be abandoned to its own devices, and that time may be rapidly approaching.
 

JOHNLEWIS HODDINOTT (77)
Saturday July 10, 2010, 9:35 am
HAVE THE PAESTINIAN'S

EVER THOUGHT OF RECLAMING THE LAND THAT JORDAN ININHERITED,
A BIG CHUNK OF PALESTINE THERE FOR THE TAKING .
SHALOM
 

JOHNLEWIS HODDINOTT (77)
Saturday July 10, 2010, 9:42 am
SORRY A BOUT THE SPELLING
SHOULD BE , PALESTINIAN'S ;~))

SHALOM
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Saturday July 10, 2010, 1:22 pm
Ray S
I am sorry that you may be the one who can go to hell as long as you have no idea what this post is about.By the way I never denied the right of America to defend itself . On the contrary,I still believe that for America to defend itself against what is called terrorism,is to force its baby named Israel to end its occupation of the Palestinians land.This continuous occupation and the 100% support of USA and the west in general,is the main reason of violence in the Middle East and is taken as an excuse for terrorists and causing a lot of harm to USA interests world wide.

Those who don't understand this fact are either ignorant or blind and they are the ones who will certainly go to hell.Do you want to join them?

JOHNLEWIS
Jordan didn't drive Palestinians out from their homes,properties and stolen their land.Zionism did and is still stealing their land and building settlements on their land.Are you asleep? Wake up to see the truth. SHALOM
 
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