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Jill
- 3247 days ago - counterpunch.com
The US economy and the well-being of Americans are being sacrificed to the regime's wars. The states are broke and laying off teachers. Even "rich" California, formerly touted as "the seventh largest economy in the world," is reduced to issuing script and



   

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Jill P (64)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 1:54 pm
Budgeting is all a matter of priority. The US has very poor priorities. I don't care which party is in office.
It's all about money, money, money.
Ours becoming theirs.
$$$$$$$$$$
God Bless American politicians' bank accounts and their corporate buddies and the hell with the rest of us.
but we'll never demand more from them. We'll just keep them in office.

 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 1:58 pm

STOP FUNDING IMPERIALISTIC WARS!
 

Marlyn Vega (1)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 2:06 pm
stop the spending vote the democrats out of office
 

Jill P (64)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 2:15 pm
Republicans have to go as well.
Vote for human beings either outside the two heartless parties or find human beings running for office within the two parties.
They are easy to spot. They are the ones you'll find on the ballot or on the internet who you had not heard of because they don't have the corporate money to run so many ads and flood your mailbox with fliers.
find out who is running are Vote Smart
We are responsible. vote smart NOT just whoever has the most commercials or across party lines.
 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 2:55 pm
 
Kucinich: We are Losing our Nation to Lies about the Necessity of War

 
Washington, Jun 28 -
 
Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) today made the following statement on the floor of the House concerning an expected vote on a $33 billion supplemental war funding bill:
 
“In a little more than a year the United States flew $12 billion in cash to Iraq, much of it in $100 bills, shrink wrapped and loaded onto pallets. Vanity Fair reported in 2004 that ‘at least $9 billion’ of the cash had ‘gone missing, unaccounted for.’ $9 billion.
 
“Today, we learned that suitcases of $3 billion in cash have openly moved through the Kabul airport. One U.S. official quoted by the Wall Street Journal said, ‘A lot of this looks like our tax dollars being stolen.’ $3 billion.  Consider this as the American people sweat out an extension of unemployment benefits.
 
“Last week, the BBC reported that “the US military has been giving tens of millions of dollars to Afghan security firms who are funneling the money to warlords.” Add to that a corrupt Afghan government underwritten by the lives of our troops.
 
“And now reports indicate that Congress is preparing to attach $10 billion in state education funding to a $33 billion spending bill to keep the war going.
 
“Back home millions of Americans are out of work, losing their homes, losing their savings, their pensions, and their retirement security.  We are losing our nation to lies about the necessity of war.
 
“Bring our troops home. End the war. Secure our economy.”
 
See the video here
 

 
 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 3:08 pm

Jill, I commend you for your patriotism and steadfast devotion to the rights of citizens (and I am proud to be included as your friend).

“Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty; power is ever stealing from the many to the few”
 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 3:10 pm

The House agreed on Tuesday to provide $37 billion to continue financing America's two wars, but the vote showed deepening divisions among Democrats over the course of the conflict in Afghanistan, the New York Times reports. 148 Democrats and 160 Republicans backed the war spending, but 102 Democrats joined 12 Republicans in opposing the measure. Some of the Democratic opposition stemmed from the decision by party leaders to strip from the bill money that had been included in the original House version to help address the weak economy at home, including funds to help preserve teachers' jobs. But some of those voting against it said they were influenced by the leaked documents. "I think the White House continues to underestimate the depth of antiwar sentiment here," said Representative Jim McGovern. At a confirmation hearing for Gen. Mattis to lead Central Command, Senator Reed asked General Mattis whether he agreed the US should use a July 2011 deadline for the start of withdrawals to begin moving toward a more limited strategy of hunting down insurgents without trying to rebuild Afghanistan. General Mattis quickly agreed. "I think that is the approach, Senator," he said.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 4:00 pm
We needed a change...but I sure haven't seen any.
 

Kit B (276)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 4:00 pm
Bring in Elizabeth Warren, she can't harm any thing, but maybe bring new ideas, new priorities. Even the Pentagon has said they are over funded, what better source does one need? Rethink Afghanistan, just what are spending one trillion a year on? Why are we policing the world? Too give contractors a budget for building new weapons of war, is there another real reason?
 

Yvonne White (229)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 4:31 pm
I think they vote for war because that's the only Manufacturing Jobs we have left!;)
But seriously, I LOVE Dennis Kucinich!! I wonder if I could get Illinois to Out-source my rat-ba$tard Rep. Shimkus' job to Dennis?
 

Beverly P. (4)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 4:46 pm
There is one easy answer to the many, many problems in Washington. Cut the size of the federal government down by one third, even half, right now. When they are conducting "cash deals", with Afghan warlords over those poppy fields, they turn America into sleazy drug dealers.

We do not need a government that will conduct cash "deals" with the worlds largest producer of opium.
 

Jill P (64)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 5:41 pm
What a great idea Yvonne.
Washington's corporate buddies keep outsourcing the jobs they offer so why can't we?
We are the employers afterall, why not outsource? Afterall, We have to (as the corporations tell us) we cannot find suitable, qualified employers here.
 

Barbara D (70)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 5:47 pm
Get your personal finances in order the best you can and as soon as possible--this house of cards can't hold up much longer and we'll all suffer the consequences.
 

Jennifer G (20)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 6:54 pm
Thanks for posting, Jill.
 

Arthur S (3)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 7:11 pm
If the American people were unaware of the total and complete waste of money on wars that the government is using as a nation building exercise. Maybe this article will strike a cord monetarily.
 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 8:04 pm
 
From Brave New Foundation:
 
Did you hear that Congress voted yesterday to fund more escalation in Afghanistan, even after WikiLeaks gave us more proof that the war isn’t working and isn’t worth the cost?
 
It’s outrageous. The American people do not support this war, yet a majority of Members of Congress continue to vote to spend billions of our tax dollars on a disastrous war.
 
We've got to act quickly and forcefully to let them know we strongly oppose the action they took yesterday. Otherwise, they'll assume they can ignore most people's desire for timetable for withdrawal. They'll assume they can ignore the plurality of people who want our military involvement ended in less than a year.* We can't let that happen.
 
Let’s remind them that November is only 3 months away, and that if they want to keep their jobs, they ignore us at their peril.
 
Please sign our petition and demand they act to end this war.
 
Sincerely,
 
Derrick Crowe, Robert Greenwald and the Brave New Foundation team
 
 

Grant Coleman (6)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 9:06 pm
we need to elect solid state reps, and the stop paying federal taxes but continue to invest in the states.
 

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 9:36 pm
Every deployed soldier or sailor costs us $1,000,000 a year
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 10:27 pm
I will speak now, I can not stay silent any more.
The Americans don't like this war, the Afghans don't like this war, no one like this war, and The government cannot explain why the war is necessary.

but the war was started and not finished. in spite of the promises and the efforts to finish it. WHY?
because this war and the other war in Iraq, are not only for Oil, and selling weapons, but for "hidden agendas".

Those wars are part of the WWIII, Yes we are in the are of WWIII, which started after 9/11.
Hope I'm wrong.

For more information, visit this link;
http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-3/ww3.htm

Hope I'm wrong, because all of us don't like wars, hate wars and want to live in peace and safe.

Thanks Jill for the article.
Thanks Carol for forwarding.
 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Wednesday July 28, 2010, 11:51 pm
They keep it going because a)the "elites" WANT it to keep going, b)because it's the quickest way to finish off the American economy as per orders, c)because it's still the most profitable industry in earth, always at the expense of the people, d)because it continues to give them an excuse to continue the "War On Terror, another fake war, e)because they know damned well that the instant the "war" ends (and let me remind you that CONGRESS HAS NEVER YET DECLARED THIS A WAR - SO WE ARE NOT AT WAR! - those responsible stand a good chance of being held accountable, f)because there are still too many strong, healthy Americans not damaged yet by the war or the starvation, enforced vaccinations, FEMA camps and other means of death and debilitation they're relying on to remove those people from the equation when Americans finally are forced to rebel or starve in their own homes - or die of thirst because the government or crony corporations own even their well water from their own land and they can't afford it because the money has been devalued to nothing.

Does that about cover it?

Ian
 

Arild Warud (174)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 12:37 am
Petition signed,TY for the post Jill.
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 1:17 am
I am not an American citizen but I am a human being and a peace lover.The global recession which became a reality late 2008 effected not only U.S.citzens but the whole world.Millions lost their jobs and homes because of the greed of corporations which are the only benificiaries of the unjustified and continuing war.Look how much did the war cost and is costing every munite.

Total Cost of Wars Since 2001
$1,022,492,269,262
Cost of War in Iraq
$736,093,605,021
Cost of War in Afghanistan
$286,398,664,240
PLEASE VISIT THIS WEBSITE TO SEE HOW THE COST IS GROWING EVERY SECOND
http://www.costofwar.com/
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 1:19 am
Thanks Jill for the post. Thanks Carol for forwarding this post to me.
 

Jaclyn Svarrer (9)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 1:56 am
Thanks for the post. Vote outside of the major parties, do your research!!!
 

Marty H (119)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 3:15 am
Thanks Jill and Carole. Sad but very true!
 

Jytte Nhanenge (64)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 4:17 am
An important post Jill, it is very important indeed. Thank you for forwarding it Just, and for your good comments. I have with great interest read the many comments, also the theory on a Third World War, which Qais refers to. Those are convincing arguments and scary prospects. Indeed the world's governments have become greedy and violent. However, to reduce governments as Beverly suggests, is equally dangerous since a vacuum tends to be filled with something that often is worse. The best example is the present domination of the corporations. The current neo-liberal policies dictate a withdrawal of government interference in the economy, giving more power to the so called free market and its actors. Thus, instead of greedy governments, we have to fight greedy corporations, who, with the free markets and free trades, are free to pollute our environment and toxifying our food chain with GMOs. Consequently, both elected government officials and managers of corporations are greedy people and greed leads to war, because war is really a fight over access to resources for profit making. I do not believe the Obama administration can change much, I do not even know if they are willing to change the present situation because they benefit from it, enjoying luxury personal life styles and heavy bank accounts. However, I also think that they are unaware of what the real problem is. Thus, they exhaust themselves trying to find solution to various different problems, when it really is a systemic problem.

My conviction is that we cannot understand a problem, and hence find adequate solution to it, unless we are analyzing root causes. Thus, I do not think the problem relates to individual people, political parties, and corporations as such. I believe the problem relates to learned perceptions of reality and the actions these perceptions promote: Science, its discipline economics, and the technologies that derive from this system are all based on reductionist perceptions. Reductionism is the believe that we can divide reality into smaller parts and deal with each part separately without causing any negative reaction in the wider whole. The reductionist perception includes the belief that nature is dead, thus using its parts as resources for profit making is permissible. The view also sees animals and people as mere machines available for domination. Moreover, science is a dualist perspective, which only includes quantitative issues, hence excluding what we all care the most about: a quality of life. That way of thinking (Francis Bacon and Isaac Newton) is more than 300 years old and was outdated by the works of Einstein and his co-scientists. They decided that the world is alive and interconnected; hence we cannot change any one part without affecting all other parts and their relations. Since this new way of thinking would require us to include all parts of the system and hence care for society and nature in economics, the ruling elite did not allow it. Not being permitted to exploit society and nature would mean less economic profit for them. Hence, mechanical science is continuing, and most people are unaware of the terrible consequences this has. If we do not change the perception in science from being reductionist, to being a systemic, holistic knowledge system, we will indeed die in a third world war.

We are already in the mist of many systemic crises derived from the elite's reductionist focus on economic profit making. Fifty thousand people are dying every day from poverty relates causes. Globally human rights are deteriorating. Violence in civil society is increasing; commonly it is directed to the physically weaker women and children. Finally, nature, and with it all its wonderful animals and plants, is slowly dying. When nature breaks down, Homo sapiens will die out too.

Being deeply troubled about the terrible pain many African people are suffering from poverty, I studied the phenomena for many years. These studies finally ended in a book that describes how I perceive the root causes of the present horrible global systemic crises. University Press of America will publish it in January 2011. It is called "Ecofeminism: Towards Integrating the Concerns of Women, Poor People, and Nature into Development". It is an ecological and feminist critique of science, economics, technology, and development. I hope you will read it, perhaps you can ask you library to take it home when it is available. It is not the final word to the crises, it is merely a small input meant to inform and change perceptions, which may help us to think holistically and thus to focus on a quality of life for all, rather than a quantity of money for the few.
 

Agnes H (144)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 5:13 am
America won't be able to count on it's allies forever as some are already leaving Afghanistan, so what will the Government do if it ends up on it's own? The Australian people won't allow it's government to stay on forever either. We want our boys back safe and sound! I think America is in deeper trouble than Obama really realizes! I don't know what to say anymore as I haven't caught up with earlier messages yet, but will know more once I do!
 

Elaine R (132)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 5:56 am
HERE'S A FOLK SONG I LOVED AS A CHILD - I'M GOING TO SHAKE HANDS WITH THE PRINCE OF PEACE DOWN BY THE RIVERSIDE I AIN'T GOING TO STUDY WAR NO MORE - THIS SURPRISINGLY HAS STAYED WITH ME - BROTHERS AND SISTERS UNITE PUT DOWN YOUR GUNS REFUSE TO FIGHT
 

patricia lasek (317)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 7:15 am
We ALL want peace, except fpr the military-industrial complex and the politicians whose pockets are being padded by them.
 

Jill P (64)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 7:37 am
You can go here to see how your dirt bag Rep voted. My dirt bag Democrat Rep voted yes. My Democrat ep is so conservative the Independent candidates that ran in 2008 were more liberal than him.
I think you covered most of the important points Ian. Thanks.
Good for you Jaclyn..research and vote outside the parties. We need to show them we are willing to NOT vote for them. force the Dems and Repubs to do better. Make them work for our votes rather than gie them up so easily just because we all vote Repub or Dem automatically no matter who is running. We're too easy for them. We give our votes away without demanding anything in return. Maybe that makes US the whores. LOL
Anyway,remember, every time those corporate lap dogs in Wahsington approve funding for the wars TWO THIRDS of the money goes to private corporations. That is a huge motive when you figure we just let Congress and Obama hand over $22 BILLION of OUR money to private corporations.
$22 billion, not counting the 9 billion that disappeared off palets over there. Another 3 billion in suitcases that disappeared. Imagine if those pallets were distributred in towns across America, or homeless shelters to thelp people make a bettre life for themselves.
Now another $33 Billion. And yet they argue over etending unemployment benefits, deny us Medicare for All, refuse to pull us out of the depression by creating government jobs so people will be guarenteed jobs and paid directly which is cheaper than giving it to corps and no new jobs are created or they are outsourced.
Congress and Obama deny the American people better protection form corps and banks gambling our money away, deny us a living wage, refuse to raise taxes on the rich (which is every one of them) to make them pay their fair share, etc...
but giving away $33 Billion, most of which goes to corporations who in turn give some of that money back directly to mambers of congress and the Presdient, for wars the American people do not want, there was hardly a discussion.
So again, I am having a hard time telling the Dems for the Repubs. They all agree on corporate welfare, corporate bribes for themselves, giving our money away so they can get theri cut later from the corps, tax cuts for themselves, the rich, and screwing us. That is where the parties come togehter nicely. They hardly argue over those issues. They are in agreement.
We Americans have made some very poor choices in the last 30 years for employees in Wahsington. Unfortunately the whole world is paying for our ill informed picks in Washington.
 

Ian MacLeod (79)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 8:33 am
"stop the spending vote the democrats out of office"

Marlyn, if you leave the Republicans in a majority, they'll just go back to the same corruption that started all this with bush. The Democrats have, however, shown themselves to be no better. Before we throw the bastards out though, let's make sure the new bastards are no worse at least!

Ian
 

Rochelle H (102)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 8:51 am
Our government is corrupt and no doubt misleading, the war is about pure greed. Our world is weakening by this, and the people are all suffering because of it. The saddest thing is, will the hard working people ever be able to gain back control? Will our troops ever come home? Will the tax payers dollars ever be used for the better of the people, or will it just pad the pockets of our politicians and officials? It's just really depressing knowing that the people aren't even considered anymore. The only thing that gives me hope outside my family, is the dedicated people fighting against our government and the unjust in this world. There is so much that needs fixing. Thanks for the article Jill and for being one of those dedicated people who work towards a better world.
 

SuS NoMail Plez P (244)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 9:25 am
Thank you Jill! Carol, all your posts are brilliant! Unfortunately I cannot send you a star for each one! Abe,Kit...I cannot send you one this early. GREAT POSTS..
 

SuS NoMail Plez P (244)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 9:26 am
Ohhhh, SIGNED YOUR PETITION "Carol~ Thank You for the link!
 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 10:01 am
 
The following reader's comment -- from Cate, a dearly-loved and much-missed former Care2 member -- appeared today in the New York Times:

The Early Word: Unemployment Benefits Revived
While Congress pushes through unemployment benefit extensions, President Obama signs new financial regulation, the Fed chairman, Ben S. Bernanke, reports to Congress and Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. fires up the barbecue grill. 
 
24.  RC deWinter
Middletown, CT
July 29th, 2010
9:51 am
 
"Yes, I will soon be one of the long-term unemployed.Despite years of professional experience, I am a 59-year-old divorced woman and have not been able to find new employment since losing my job in January 2008.It sickens me that you would rather sacrifice hardworking Americans who through no fault of their own have been cut from the labor force and cannot find new employment instead of looking at the elephant in the room as the answer to cutting the shameful national debt: the wars in the Middle East.Anyone who supports throwing jobless Americans under the bus rather than cutting off the trillions spent on paying off corrupt foreign governments, greedy military suppliers and others who profit from these pointless, unwinnable wars is deluded, unpatriotic and short-sighted.Corrupt Middle Eastern war lords, clan leaders and officials are not going to support the American economy.  It is American citizens who will keep this economy going by spending here, on cars, food, clothing, housing, etc. However, Americans with no money to spend will soon become a burden on each and every state as they apply for welfare, Medicaid and food stamps. People forced to raid their retirement plans to make ends meet are becoming the next generation of senior citizens living in despair and poverty and ever greater numbers of them will be dependent on government assistance for their meager survival.Can't you see the domino effect of denying Tier 5 - and 6 and 7 if needed - benefits to the long-term unemployed?Cut off unemployment to the 15 million competing for 3 million jobs = less consumer cash into the economy = less business profitability = fewer jobs = more unemployed = more outgo of social services = more states raising taxes to pay for services = more working Americans pinched by tax increases = more poverty = DISASTER!Wake up, all ye who hold the economic reins! Don't wait for a full-blown depression and breadlines before you scratch your teeny pointed heads and say, 'Gee, what went wrong?'Stop using the unemployed as your budget scapegoat!"

 
 

Tierney G (381)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 10:29 am
END THE WARS NOW!!!
I am fuming over the fact that those stupid Republicans will vote to waste more lives and more of the deficit on two wars one which is unwinnable if wars ever really are and not the people suffering in this country right here. I think they have lost the control battle in this country and so are ooking for more overseas to get a hold of and conquer.We see right through you Hello!!You are not fooling us anymore. Of course the dems ar no better they won't stand up and fight for the people they just are to damn polite and that is putting it nicely. They can all go as far as I am concerned.
i think we all need to make a stink about where our tax dollars are going to from now on. two can play at this game and the the wimpy Dems should have stood ground and said NO!!!!!!
 

RC deWinter (418)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 10:52 am
Thank, Carole...HUGS...not former, just absent...:-)
 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 11:26 am

Good to see you here, dear friend!

(Your letter said it so well that I HAD to include it in this article.)
 

Michael Carney (217)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 1:09 pm
Ending these ridiculous Wars, would be a major step in the right direction...Both Parties, Democratic, and Republican are responsible for this mess...They are slimy, corrupt Toads, who deserve to go to Jail, for the looting of the Treasury, and for destroying Millions of peoples lives, all the while taking care, of the Corporations, and the Rich...
 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 1:20 pm

So true, Michael.

I was watching the House proceedings earlier. As per usual, debates boiled down to partisanship -- The Democrats accused the Republicans of being the "party of No," while the Republicans kept screaming that the Democrats don't seem to understand that we can no longer afford to contribute to a deficit that funds must be borrowed to cover.

BOTH parties are suffering from a severe case of "elephant-in-the-room blindness." Just a few days ago, they passed a supplemental bill for $33 billion for war [elephant] funding!

It's not even amusing any more how they ALL (with a few exceptions, such as Kucinich and Paul) IGNORE the tremendous amount of taxpayer dollars being spent [wasted] for defense [offense].
 

Philip Heinlein (474)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 1:47 pm
There is no quick fix for this. Cutting government only leaves less regulation of greedy corporations. Pulling out of Iraq and Afganistan just lets the terrorists resume their radical agendas without any distractions. Voting out all incumbants only changes the names of the people making bad decisions for us.

There is something that we can all do that would help, though. A lot of these problems can be traced back to our thirst/need/addiction for oil. If we all get serious about breaking the US addiction to oil, that would go a long way towards cleaning up the present mess we're in. Buy cleaner cars and drive less. Make our homes more energy efficient. Promote clean, renewable energy instead of oil, coal, and gas. These are things we can all do something about, and they would help promote some of the change that is badly needed.
 

H Nick H (1826)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 3:26 pm
The republicans just pushed for and got and additonal 30 billion + for the war in Afganistan, and yet did everything in their power to stop people who are unemployeed and trying to feed their families any money. Make me sick, and angry. Obama is our leader, and yet he can't do much without the backing of congress. And the main goal of republicans in congress is to destroy Obama and all democrates. It's just for their own POWER AND GREED. And yes, there is even "right wing" democrates, that fly the flag of caring about others, only to deceive the American people.

There are many in Washington who truly want to do the best and highest good for the average US citizen, but are being drowned out by these right wingers. IT HAS GOT TO STOP. They almost brought our contry to the point of being flushed down the toilet of life, and it's been Obama who has changed that course, even with all the right wing resistance.

We need to speak up and make it known that the time has come for AMERICA to care about it's people, not just the upper 2% (richest) but, ALL PEOPLE.
 

Gregory H (422)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 4:28 pm
Thank you Jill for posting this needed article.
Phil, I agree it is imperative we wean ourselves from oil, and not just because our dependence on Mideast oil is the underlying agenda of the war.
However I strongly disagree there is no quick fix for the war. There is: WITHDRAW, which can be done in 3 months flat from the day Obama gives the order, for which he has the constitutional authority.

We'd suddenly have nearly $100 Billion a year for a crash program to reduce oil consumption while developing the clean and renewable alternatives.

Terrorism has been the elites-plus-fools ultra-hyped excuse for too long. Our wars are only breeding more terrorists everywhere in the region, and even if it were possible to eradicate them from Iraq and Afghanistan, we'd succeed only in breeding even more in Iran, Pakistan, and elsewhere than we are now.

FYI the military regime of Pakistan will inevitably be overthrown by fundamentalists, and guess what? They have nuclear weapons. Guess what else? The leader of their nuke program and several of his assistants GAVE the weapons blueprints to Mid-east revolutionairies years ago. That's a documented fact, not the claim of some yahoo blogger. Guess what else? It has long been known that a sizeable fraction of Pakistan's military and security forces are sympathetic to those revolutionaries, and are helping their allies fight us in Afghanistan. You need to get informed as to these facts. The Wiki leaks confirmed them yet again and one of our generals admitted them in public yet again just two days ago.

I agree "voting all the incumbents out" is a dangerously oversimplified concept, the kind Tea Partiers use (and I for one want no Tea Partiers in Congress though a few will surely get elected this fall). But I'd be glad to see all but a small handful of Repubs voted out of Congress and replaced by my friends list. And as to Democrats, Obama included, they may be better overall than Repubs -- the ones who set this insanity in motion and OPENLY champion the elite who benefit from it -- but I'd be prepared to dump any Dem including Obama in favor of Dems or Independents I could trust to end the war and end the destruction of the majority of Americans by the wealthy corporate elite and the second-tier of elites who do their bidding.
 

Susanne OFFLINE (23)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 4:37 pm
Stop those horryfying wars to begin with & take care of your own people, AMERICA!
 

Gregory H (422)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 4:42 pm
Addition to my comment above, apologies for digressing from the thrust of the article: Phil I do agree "big government" is not the problem per se, and I think we need far more airtight regulation of mega-banks, big oil, and so on. Having said that:
Too many of the policy-makers in government are corrupt. One of every three employees in America is an employee of federal, state or local govt. Sure, mostly teachers, police, clerks, and the like. But at the top of that govt employee pyramid there are many hundreds of thousands paid huge salaries and great insurance and other benefits inclusive of pensions -- who knows what percent of them are also getting kickbacks -- who are increasingly a second tier of elites. I'd like those in the high-salary positions to take a pay cut of 5% to 15% depending on just how high their salary is. I don't buy the argument govt must compete with private enterprise for the best people. We have millions of good people unemployed and underemployed.

OUT OF AFGHANISTAN NOW!
 

John F (52)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 9:02 pm
This has actually already happened elsewhere. Last year I happened across a blogger from el Salvador ( while commenting at Ten Percent in the UK ) who recommended an article in Spanish. I don't speak the language, but fired up Google Translate to see if I could make sense of what was going on.
http://my.opera.com/oldephartte/blog/2009/05/11/11-may-economics-in-salvador
 

Sue L (73)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 10:30 pm
Stop the wars now and help get America back to work.
 

Kathy Chadwell (354)
Thursday July 29, 2010, 11:40 pm
I agree with checking voting records on vote smart, I agree (I adore) Dennis Kucinich, he's a people's candidate and would make a great President. If they'd ever allow us to vote for him. They don't want the people to be educated about what he stands for so they pushed him out. Republicans did the same thing to Ron Paul. Notice the two most popular candidates got pushed out by their OWN parties?
 

Kathy Chadwell (354)
Friday July 30, 2010, 1:46 am
I have 2 very good links for anybody interested.
http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html

http://projects.publicintegrity.org/bow/report.aspx?aid=147

Making a Killing: The Business of War





 

Bob E (113)
Friday July 30, 2010, 2:05 am
To politicians:
Get out of Afghanistan and Iraq… Decrease the Pentagon budget…
We need to get our house in order and pay off the deficit……

To supporters of Pentagon waste:
We won’t be able to afford a large military in the future…
Unless we have a strong economy now with a reduced deficit…
 

Cynthia Davis (340)
Friday July 30, 2010, 7:10 am
Every problem we have in this country can be laid at the feet of Corporate greed.
 

Steve H (45)
Friday July 30, 2010, 10:23 am

I'll tell you ONE of the many reasons the US is occupying Afghanistan.

Look at this news story, notice they reported it but how often was it reported elsewhere?



The 1st paragraph of the article says this:

"WASHINGTON — The United States has discovered nearly $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits in Afghanistan, far beyond any previously known reserves and enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy and perhaps the Afghan war itself, according to senior American government officials."

One TRILLION dollars folks.

Here's the link to the article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?no_interstitial

If that link won't work just copy and paste this

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?no_interstitial

Peace
NotSilent
 

Steve H (45)
Friday July 30, 2010, 10:52 am

Excellent points made above by Jytte Nhanenge, and that is what many people are looking at now, that we have to look at things as a whole and not one piece at a time.

We definitely need to keep people aware of what is going on, do petitions, go to meetings and on and on and on, but most of that unfortunately is treating the symptoms, NOT the cause of the disease.

So, along with that we need to do many things, some of which are joining with others in person and on sites like http://architectsofanewdawn.ning.com/ where the focus is different and can and should be incorporated into our lives.

Also look up http://www.grandmotherscouncil.org/

An EXCELLENT book on how to resolve problems, communicate with different groups, organise, etc. it is called "Calling th Circle" by Christina Baldwin and can be found on Amazon here:

http://www.amazon.com/Calling-Circle-First-Future-Culture/dp/0553379003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1280511743&sr=8-1

And while I could keep going on, a good book to show people not only how our food supply system is not what they imagine it to be but also taken further it can show that we are severly mislead and our misguided perceptions are given to us by those with big money interests to keep us uninformed and onloy living breathing workers/consumers.

http://www.worldpeacediet.com/

Again, all the type stuff such as petitions and everything else are great, but if we are honest with ourselves we have to admit we're losing ground and we need to add some different approaches.

Stay positive, spread wisdom, reduce, reuse, recycle, live simply, spread and share Love and Peace and never forget to notice beauty.

NotSilent
 

Michael Masley (4)
Friday July 30, 2010, 10:55 am
noted
 

Gregory H (422)
Friday July 30, 2010, 12:00 pm
NotSilent, thank you for reminder re the mineral deposits in Afghanistan, which circulated a few weeks ago on C2 but would still be news. I researched as much as I could and came back to the conclusion that securing access to oil while profiteering on armaments and other defense and security explains most of the hyping re terrorism and wars in Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan and most likely next Iran and/or Paksistan. But the principle is the same in any case.
But mostly I wanted to "green-star" your second comment above. Sanity is losing ground on almost every front, and while petitions etc are necessary, each of us needs to do what we can to go beyond our comfort zones of action and look for other approaches we can also take. And it is imperative that we support one another and rejuvenate ourselves as you suggest, because we will be in this "war" for peace, justice and sustainability for all life for the rest of our own lives. As you note, obsession with money, power and material status symbols is a plague especially in the culture of the USA. Among the things we need to do is help others discover the beauty of creation, including that which is within us and so many others.
 

Jacqueline S Wolf Heart (74)
Friday August 6, 2010, 3:55 pm
THANK YOU FOR THIS STORY!!!
 

Carmen S (69)
Friday August 6, 2010, 9:58 pm
I am sick at heart. The military and the people who make all the guns, tanks, planes etc. are the ones who really want to continue this war. which equals to GREED. They are making too much money out of it and the Military leaders too much "attention"
 

Jytte Nhanenge (64)
Saturday August 7, 2010, 8:25 am
Dorothy Sayers said in 1947, "War is judgement that overtakes societies when they have been living upon ideas that conflict too violently with the laws governing the universe... Never think that wars are irrational catastrophes: they happen when wrong ways of thinking and living bring about intolerable situations."

Political leaders of the modern world have during several hundred years managed to manipulate us into thinking and acting in a disharmonious and dualised way. Thus, we have learned to prioritize male over female, humans over nature, culture over nature, modern over traditional, rationality over intuition, theory over practice, science over spirituality, self over other, egoism over relations, individualism over society, quantity over quality, competition over cooperation, linear over cyclical, reductionism over holism, exploitation over conservation, mechanism over ecology, large over small, hard over soft, domination over subordination, aggression over responsiveness, etc. ad nauseam. The first mentioned is the masculine or yang, it is the dominant energy in the modern world, manifested in economic man. The second mentioned is the feminine or yin, the subordinated other, manifested in women, society and nature. This dualised preference has lead modern economic man to exploit women, society, and nature including its plants and animals, together with traditional people and their cultures. It has caused global crises of poverty and inequality, war and violence, environmental degradation, and human rights abuses - because economic, egoistic, competitive man can never reach any end in his linear exploitation of nature and society including domination of anything he perceives as being feminine. This leads to an insatiable greed, which is the foundation of the dis-ease in this world. As long as we continue to idealize the dominant yang force and overlook the subtle yin energy, we will destroy life. However, when we understand that we need feminine yin to break masculine yang's greed; when we learn to generate a dynamic balance between yang with yin, then we can create harmony between the dualised energies. When we get the dynamic tension between yin and yang right, we will not anymore dominate people; we will neither exploit animals, plants or Mother Earth at large. That is the moment we can end wars and violence; poverty and inequality; environmental degradation, and human rights abuses and start to prioritize a quality of life for all. The only tension we continuously will have to monitor is between our inner yin and yang forces, which we must learn to harmonize for the benefit of all, knowing ourselves better will assist us in mastering it. The old shaman understood this way of thinking and acting; the old Chinese knew it as well; thus it is old news. Nevertheless, modern man decided not to learn from thousands of years of human experience; he rather wanted to make his own rational and destructive theories, which lead to a way of thinking and living that has caused the present intolerable situation of war and destruction.

Thank you “Not Silent Speak The Truth” for your references to websites and books. I enjoyed the information, and will order the books from Abebooks.com (second hand books). The grandmothers, circular thinking people, and vegans understand the need to interconnect the masculine and the feminine energies in order to prevent crises and generate peace. We must learn from them.

 
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