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SquatchâEUR(TM)s Open Thread 10/10/2015

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Bernie Sanders, digital privacy, Media Bias, My Universe, puzzle, socialism )

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Puzzle, 3 Short Takes, My Universe


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David C (75)
Saturday October 10, 2015, 1:08 pm

Joanne Dixon (37)
Saturday October 10, 2015, 2:07 pm
5:40 Dang, those little things are fast when you are trying to catch them. And I wasn't (fast).

Alternet - Publicly admitting that the Benghazi furor is all about politics, nothing about truth, would be a very good reason for withdrawing from consideration for Speaker. But I don't think it was McCarthy's reason. I think he was subtly "blackmailed" into withdrawing by threats to expose his real "family values." I think any arrogant Republican (but I repeat myself) would think he could get out of a political gaffe. And, with the support they get from the media, he would likely be right.

Which brings me to the original questions. Facts and truth are no longer the job of the media. I am sure there are still a few who think it ought to be - but they have to work for bosses - none of whom is interested in anything except ratings. Which comes down to who can make up the best story. But even this state of affairs would not be a problem if voters would realize it, and particularly that it is not just Fox, but all of the media. Even NPR is said to stand for "not progressive really." And the little I watch of PBS suggests that it is kind of trying but not doing so well.

Common Dreams - Well, now, this is a good thing, and is more like the Jerry Brown I once supported for President than some of his recent actions have been.

Alternet 2 - It's far from new for people, especially wealthy people, to see the poor, whether wage slaves or just slaves, as lazy and slacking off. (Do you suppose somewhere inside of them they are smart enough to see that they themselves could not stand it and would seek any means of escape, real or fantasy?) Something recently reminded me of an incident from C.S. Lewis' "The Pilgrim's Regress." Taken as a whole it quite skewers this point of view, but just a little from it:
Vertue: "...I don't remember that you said anything about servants when you were outlining the good life last night."
Sensible: "...When I speak of the art of life I presuppose the ordinary conditions of life which that art utilizes."
Vertue: "Such as wealth.
Sensible: "A competence, a competence."
Vertue: "And health, too?"
Sensible: "Moderate health."
Vertue:" Your art, then, seems to teach men that the best way of being happy is to enjoy unbroken good fortune in every respect. They would not all find the advice helpful."

Universe - I was BORN ready.

JL A (281)
Saturday October 10, 2015, 2:35 pm
Brown actually signed more than one major tech privacy bill, the last of the ones on his desk in the last 24 hrs. Also signed the strongest no racial profiling bill in the country.

Grayson filed a formal complaint on the Benghazi hearing since that violates House Ethics Rules and potentially corruption (and there is still an independent ethics group give the abysmal record of appropriate investigations and findings under the past two committee chairs).

The problem isn't socialism but rather that the socialism is limited to the most wealthy instead of shared throughout society.

Kitties always welcome.

Pat B (354)
Saturday October 10, 2015, 2:52 pm
AlterNet: Most of the time, I read the local paper. I don't really watch television media anymore. I find the constant roll over time after time, and the naysayers irritating at best. I agree, it's all about ratings, lies and all.

Common Dreams: I sure wish Texas would approve a law like this. There's a lot of info out there in the digital world, and a lot of hackers too just waiting to grab your info.

AlterNet2: Great article. I'm passing this on to some teachers I know. GO, Bernie!!

My Universe: Of course, my kitty wouldn't have it any other way.

Love your comment about the hurricane. It's probably true about the Repugs too. Enjoy your day, and Thanks, Lynn for this.

Walter F (128)
Saturday October 10, 2015, 3:00 pm
Lynn thanks for the news

Animae C (508)
Saturday October 10, 2015, 6:21 pm
Thanx Lynn

JL A (281)
Saturday October 10, 2015, 6:22 pm
And Brown just signed no guns on campus bill today!

Mitchell D (82)
Saturday October 10, 2015, 6:35 pm
I believe that the answer to Paul Krugman's question is very simple-MONEY$$$.
Faux News, and the bulshitting heads that appear thereupon, are doing what Trump is doing, bringing attention to themselves, and what do they get for it? Publicity, and money. Rupert Murdoch reportedly wanted to support the Obama candidacy, but was dissuaded by Roger Ailles, who runs Faux news for him. Ailes is a former member of the G.W. Bush administration; just carrying on the tradition of deceit!
To let go of the making of news, stopping the flow of idiocy, which is what issues a news, would mean either becoming a passive reflector of what is actually happening in the rest of the world (aka:"reporting"), or doing ethical investigative, assertive reporting, the kind that used to be valued in this country.

Edith B (146)
Saturday October 10, 2015, 8:58 pm
Alternet: Krugman is so right. The "newmen" on most tv channels are just talking heads, there are very few serious reporters anymore, they can't be, since their companies are all owned by corporations who tell them what to report. I no longer watch the Sunday morning "news" programs because they are all skewed in one direction or another, no really honest reporting.

Common Dreams: Good for Jerry Brown and the California legislature. I wish Kentucky would do the same.

Alternet: I shared this on Facebook. Too many middle income people are willing to jump on the "welfare queen" without realizing she is really a large corporation. EVeryone seems to need someone else to make them feel superior. I am probably biased since I spent my working years in one form of social work or another. What I remember is people who wanted a better life, not living on goverment subsidies.

My Universe: That kitten has all ready started his weekend!

Past Member (0)
Saturday October 10, 2015, 9:02 pm
Sam squatch ape man live in tree. No one get good photo.

Sherri G (128)
Sunday October 11, 2015, 12:18 am
Thank You Lynn for sharing. Noted

Gloria picchetti (304)
Sunday October 11, 2015, 12:41 am
Guinea pig puzzle time; 7:14. Not too good but I never had my own guinea pig!

Today I am mostly about the Chicago Cubs fighting for their lives against St. Louis!

PlsNoMessage se (588)
Sunday October 11, 2015, 3:16 am

Gene J (289)
Sunday October 11, 2015, 6:02 am
8:00 of 9:41 average on the 70 piece bubble yesterday, 6:13 of 9:06 today - I love the blue sky ones. :^)

You couldn't be more correct, I was going to say "right" there, but that would be redundant, when talking about Faux Noise. They pretend to be news, but they are really just an extension of the RNC which I suspect is fully funded by Rupert Murdoch who controls all right wing media even if the Koch boys toss in a few dollars. Media is Rupert's, other lies and obfuscations he leaves the Koch boy, Rove and Adelson. All the super PAC money flows from them, Rupert just runs the "reportage" side of the right wing apparatus. Actually I am surprised that Megyn Kelly still has a job after so annoying the right wing with ACTUAL questions at the first debate, particularly the Donald. Then again, Rupert does like dirty old men paired with pretty young women on all his media outlets. But one can't take anything coming out of any of those as actual news. News with a slant is not news, it is propaganda. A useful technique in any fascist society, popularized so successfully by Hitler and Mussolini. And carrying on the tradition today, the right wing, the tea party and the right wing "news" machine and PAC's.

None of those fools can distinguish between true socialism which does not try to bring down the wealthy but have them pay their fair share so that all might have opportunity, and communism which we all know as brutal and repressive. This conflation of the two is deliberate in my opinion. I am sure they actually know the difference but such is their greed and arrogance that they believe they can so muddle the lines they will scare the masses away from what is good for us all and into the arms of the uber right wingnuts. It's worked since 2010.

But, as I've said before, I do think 2016 is the year in which the people will recognize the emperor has no clothes, the longer Bernie stays in the race the likelier that is to happen. THEN they may shudder in their Gucci's because the end is truly near for them. They've had a longer run than anyone ever had and all have more money than they could possibly spend in their lifetimes so why not just go away and let the people, the serious people, deal with the pressing issues of the day like rebuilding our infrastructure from the ground up, everything, transportation, technology, water and sewer, a modern electrical grid that won't end power to half the country if one fuse blows, nationalized health care and more. All of which will create many, many jobs and future careers for our young.

Lona G (66)
Sunday October 11, 2015, 6:32 am
Fall has started here too, Lynn, and some days can be really gloomy if it's overcast all day, but when I'm inside and relaxing the sound of the rain can be very soothing. With some luck our Fall can be really beautiful and colorful but nothing nearly as spectacular as in New England and Canada. I hope you get to enjoy some this athank you for keeping TomCat's site running smoothly and well.

Alternet:: By using the Republican fear mongering with "THE Deficit" at it's center, Paul Krugman shows like no other how the Right is always instilling fear in its base for anything the Democrats do, and are helped tremendously by their propaganda machine, the media, to do that, but whenever their fear-inducing predictions turn out to be lies, or they are guilty of doing exactly the same thing they've accused the Democrats of, the silence is deafening. And in their delusions of victory, members of the GOP are even "honest" enough to boast about the lies and the ruses they use to try and break Democratic careers. And, like Krugman, we all know it's lies and ruses, but they still have the upper hand, so why should the GOP be bothered? Chances are they'll still have Congress and with some (bad) luck they'll have the presidency too.

Common Dreams: Gov.Brown finally has done the right thing and signed this bill for California. Kudos to him for signing this bill. However, this should have been a federal bill, of course.This is one of the few areas where I agree that the government has too much power.

Alternet: Of course I'm in full agreement with you on this one, Lynn, as I also come from a country where socialism was alive and well until the right wing came to power and most of the left has inched closer to the right each election. I used to be proud that we treated ALL workers fairly, but greedy capitalism, that special brand that seems to stem fro America, has left its marks here too. But my blood pressure still rises whenever The GOP abuses the word "socialism" and gives it one of their lying spins.

My Universe: I'm so glad this adorable picture came at the end, it makes me so sleepy...

Terrie Williams (798)
Sunday October 11, 2015, 7:35 am
Thanks,Lynn.....awwwwww the lil kitta-kitta looking all innocent sleeping....and plotting world domination....LOL

Roberto MARINI (88)
Sunday October 11, 2015, 8:31 am
thank you fror sharing

marie therese Hanulak (8)
Sunday October 11, 2015, 4:11 pm

Sheila D (28)
Sunday October 11, 2015, 8:47 pm
Thanks for the post, Lynn. Love the kitty at the end.

Colleen L (3)
Sunday October 11, 2015, 11:49 pm
Love the kitty. Glad a lot of the bills were signed. Thanks Lynn

Nita L (127)
Monday October 12, 2015, 3:02 am
Thank you Lynn.

Past Member (0)
Wednesday February 3, 2016, 9:07 am
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