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Chris C (152)
Tuesday November 3, 2015, 11:20 am
"“This is a Presidential debate,” Priebus said. “If people want facts, they can watch ‘Jeopardy.’ ”

WOW- hard to believe the ignorance of saying this out loud!
 

Joanne Dixon (37)
Tuesday November 3, 2015, 11:38 am
5:11 (5:11) I probably couldn't do that again if I tried.

CBC - Nothing real Progressives haven't been saying for years if not decades. I have mixed feelings. While I'm glad to see that real economics can be perceived as winning strategy, I worry that using it thus may lead to mere lip service. We don't just need winning campaigns, we need winning legislation and action.

New Yorker - Sounds like merely formalizing existing policy to me. BTW I read Hewlett Packard is going to split itself up?

AlterNet - Don't plan the GOP's eulogy just yet. It will survive just fine. Its crazy base will keep it propped up, even if it looks to us more like a zombie.

CBC2 - I think we all know this is a ploy. Here are two petitions aimed at circumventing it, and I'm sure there are or will be many more:

http://action.foe.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/index.sjs?action_KEY=18663

http://sierra.force.com/actions/National?actionId=AR0027358&id=70131000001LjatAAC&data=4f579618dd433254f00e901e8e753655d3db701f845057514e02d9b6d0c4be6c3854caf72195a683b354d5e23a6dc18f&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sierraclub&utm_campaign=beyondoil

Universe - Yes.
 

Ted W (127)
Tuesday November 3, 2015, 12:05 pm
Shared ultra-liberally! Thanks for the post Lynn!
We could only dream of the Greedy Ole Party's demise!
 

Gene Jacobson (288)
Tuesday November 3, 2015, 12:39 pm
Actually that was Andy, Chris. But it certainly could have been Preibus. Or any of the others actually in the clown car...
 

Lona Goudswaard (66)
Tuesday November 3, 2015, 12:52 pm
By the sound of it, it was a good day all around for everyone, Lynn. Good to hear TomCat is back in the facility he called The Torture Chamber, which can now continue their excellent care (from what I've heard of it) and rehabilitation program.

CBC: A lot of countries in Europe, but also Australia, could benefit from the lessons Trudeau's win has to offer. Austerity is not the way and the people have felt the pain of it too long to ignore that message. How it translates for each country is a different matter, however. To most Europeans, being a (Canadian or American) liberal is not the same as being a progressive, for instance a Social Democrat. Even being Labor isn't progressive anymore in the UK or Holland, they would have to move back to the left first. But Trudeau's win IS a great example and encouragement and will give rise to other shifts in power before it is too late, I hope, and the populists have taken all.

The New Yorker: Kudos to Andy for his rasor sharp analysis: Republican candidates can not handle anything that is “abusively fact-based.” because they experience anything fact-based as abusive and old-hat, even if it's directly quoted from their own website or twitters.

Alternet: I was late in commenting on yesterday's Open Tread but I got carried away and made a long comment anyway, because this issue really get's to me and I'm surprised by the way most see at comical and rather harmless. So I hope you don't mind I repeat what I've said earlier in this subject.
This of course goes much further than the debates: the Clown's car wants to leave the Circus and start a clowns-only show of their own. These are individuals who have been riding on the back of the GOP to reach their personal goal, become POTUS. It has become clear that even the GOP doesn't want to vouch for the quality of these people and has been trying to rule them in and give the voters the idea that they stand for the GOP (whatever that may be), but these candidates couldn't care less about a party, and don't have to as they are backed by a corporatist/1%-er that is financing (i.e. has bought) them. This is the ultimate proof that they have nothing to do with politics, they are individuals with enormous egos who kick on the idea of becoming president, not out of (a little bit of) drive to do something for the country but just for the status. Their "political" ideas correspond best with that of the GOP and that is the only reason they joined that party, but their true allegiance is with the 1% and with themselves

In a real world the GOP should kick all of these candidates who want the best of both worlds out of the party and force them to go Independent, demand their money back for all they have spent on them so far and start all over with a few good candidates. But in this circus that will not happen, because then Trump and Carson will take all their votes of the dumbed down and the fringe with them and the GOP will implode for good and they know it. The Grand Old Party has now become hostage to the worst group of candidates in its history.

CBC2: The best thing for TransCanada is to lay low and hope the tide will turn, they've got nothing to lose by doing that. The economic tide is against them, public opinion is against them and the political tide is undecided, but certainly not pro Keystone XL. They won't make the mistake to spend too much money now on promoting a project that may be economically and politically damned in little over a years time.

My Universe: I wish it was all our universe.
 

pam w (139)
Tuesday November 3, 2015, 1:10 pm
BEST WISHES TO TOM!

Thanks, Lynn.
 

Pat B (356)
Tuesday November 3, 2015, 1:18 pm
New Yorker: Actually, watching Jeopardy! is better than watching these IDs.

Alternet: We can only hope and pray for their shortcomings...Cruz is completely gone. He must be smokin' those tumbleweeds I keep hearing about...lol.

CBC2: Signed both petitions, thank you, Joanne for the links.

My Universe: Right on!!

I have a neighbor who keeps her Christmas lights up all year long. On holidays, she turns them on. All the Christmas shows/movies will be done by the middle of the month, unfortunately. My grocery store has a Christmas tree in the foyer, nothing about Thanksgiving. Kind of sad, imho. Glad to read about TC, and hope that he is back resting. Enjoy your day, Thanks, Lynn.
 

Joanne Dixon (37)
Tuesday November 3, 2015, 2:04 pm
One more KXL petition that I missed -
http://act.350.org/sign/KXL-suspend-permit/
 

Animae C (509)
Tuesday November 3, 2015, 2:32 pm
Thanx Lynn
 

Walter F (128)
Tuesday November 3, 2015, 5:19 pm
Thanks Lynn
 

P A (117)
Wednesday November 4, 2015, 1:11 am
CBC – I do hope the Canadian Liberals can help the rest of the world to reject rightwing ideology. Lona is quite correct, Labour isn't left wing any more in the UK and elsewhere – thanks to Tony Blair (if only John Smith had lived!). As it is we suffer from a very Right Wing government elected by 24% of the electorate – and people are still too stupid here to think we don't need electoral reform! The worrying thing is that in times of instability people vote more Right Wing as they want stability and the Right always promise that – and it seems things could get more unstable (Heaven forfend).

So glad to hear the good news about TC – well done!

My Universe – oh if ONLY!!
 

P A (117)
Wednesday November 4, 2015, 1:15 am
Thanks Lynn!
 

Gloria picchetti (304)
Wednesday November 4, 2015, 4:47 am
Boogie board boy puzzle time; 5:10.

If we don't follow Canada's election example the world is in deep trouble.
 

Julia Cabrera-Woscek (0)
Wednesday November 4, 2015, 4:48 am
I can't access the puzzle page... anyone else having this problem?
 

Arielle S (313)
Wednesday November 4, 2015, 5:35 am
Quite tired of all the polls and clowns...The GOP should be truly embarrassed if this is the best they can put out there.
Andy's columns are so truth-like that many think they are real news... well, actually, they are, aren't they?
 

James Maynard (84)
Wednesday November 4, 2015, 6:34 am
"Facts?! We ain't got no Facts!
We don't need no stinkin' Facts!"
Puzzle: 4:36 (Avg - 5:11)
 

Janis K (129)
Wednesday November 4, 2015, 8:31 am
Thanks for sharing.
 

Leanne B (46)
Wednesday November 4, 2015, 11:13 am
Thanks for the update on TC. Great post Lynn an comments.
 

Pat B (356)
Wednesday November 4, 2015, 11:24 am
Thanks, Joanne for that last link. Signed!
 

Lynn S (235)
Thursday November 5, 2015, 11:08 pm
Chris, don't forget that was the satire of Andy Borowitz and not Priebus.

Thanks everybody!
 

Nita L (127)
Friday November 6, 2015, 5:26 am
Thank you Lynn.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday January 31, 2016, 7:17 am
THANKS NOTED
 
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