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5 of the Most Appalling Acts of Incitement From Israel This Week


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Lynn
- 937 days ago - politicsplus.org
The worst cases of racism to emerge from Israel this week demonstrate how non-Jewish minority groups are maligned and demonized ...



   

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Animae C (506)
Tuesday February 23, 2016, 2:08 am
Rendered speechless...
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 23, 2016, 2:38 am
Noted sadly. Thanks Lynn. Horrific.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 23, 2016, 3:57 am
THANKS FOR SHARING LYNN
 

Pat B (356)
Tuesday February 23, 2016, 6:36 am
The hatred and venom is appalling, and very disturbing.

Thanks Lynn for this, and passing on as well.
 

Lona G (67)
Tuesday February 23, 2016, 8:03 am
This is the second article you refer to an article from Alternet in which a number of appalling incitements from Israel within one week are gathered. That fact alone is shocking enough, and the only good thing about it is that Alternet now seems to have put these horrible acts on their priority list, the same as they did with outrageous acts by Republicans. And so have you, Lynn, and I thank you for it even though the hatred that emanated from these five examples made my stomach turn.

Israel has become its own worst enemy, but instead of searching it's own conscience Netanyahu and his ilk have chosen to fork out an extra $26 million dollars for a campaign to restore Israel's good name in the outside world, even going so far as to push other countries (among them US and UK) into criminalizing any criticism of the state of Israel (that is, not the Jews per se) by tarring it all with same brush of antisemitism. I do hope neither Alternet nor you, Lynn, will cave in under this pressure and the Hasbara that will undoubtedly find you, and you both will continue to expose this.
 

Joanne D (38)
Tuesday February 23, 2016, 2:44 pm
It is certainly not true that all Jews are pure and innocent, any more than that all Muslims are vile and guilty. It is also not true that all Palestinians are pure and innocent, any more than that all Israelis are vile and guilty. Of course the same is true of any and all groups all over the world, through time. Yet, however true, statements like those I have just made break the minds of people who are committed to tribal, black-and-white thinking, people who exist in huge numbers and may even be the majority of humans. None of that is new, and it has always led to wrong and unnecessary deaths. An article like this certainly makes it feel up close and personal. What can we do?
 

Evelyn B (61)
Tuesday February 23, 2016, 5:14 pm
These abuses are part of the growing provocation that makes it very hard for Palestinians to adhere to civil resistance, non-violence, passive resistance .... It is actually rather amazing that the proportion that ARE turning to stones, knives (even fewer) & - apparently, according to recent reports, a few with home-made guns, and carrying out violent attacks. Oppression, frustration, despair bring some to breaking point ...

As you say, Joanne - neither side is totally innocent. And neither side is totally monstrous. It certainly doesn't help that one side has military might, & many people go through the process of being part of a "brotherhood" in the army, where both leaders & many members are encouraged to view the other side as dangerous monsters. (Breaking the Silence is one of the groups formed of ex-IDF who have faced great difficulty in juggling their innate sense of "right" and the "wrongs" endorsed by the belligerent mindset required within the military, and witness to this)

But there are, on both sides, people who are actively struggling to build understanding, respect, peace between the concerned communities, and many of these reach out together.

I suspect that there are also many Israelis who are not at ease with the policies & strategies of the government, nor with the impunity accorded to those who aggress the Palestinians (extremist settlers, Hill Top youth, Pay Check activists). But most have yet to find effective ways of reacting. They may not have the gift for writing articles, or protest songs, of speaking in public. They may not feel able to cope with the negative reaction of others around them. They may feel torn between wanting to believe the rewritten history they've been taught, the idea that Israel is a dream come true .... and the sense that the dream is turning into a nightmare because ideals & principles are being betrayed.

But some are standing up and seeking to do something. Some meet and work with Palestinians, building understanding & mutual respect. Some are peace activists joining non-violent demonstrations. Some write articles trying to draw the attention & active support of more fellow Israelis ... and of Jewish & other communities elsewhere.

Jonathan Ofir has just written a strong Open Letter To My Fellow Israelis: We Can Stop This .... Uri Avnery helped form civil society groups as well as writing regular articles. Miko Peled & others do on speaking tours .... There are a number who are finding ways that they are able to act ...

And as for us? Well - we can try to help spread their messages, contribute to building more understanding, and respect through messages that don't match the official "only democracy in the Middle East, struggling against monsters who hate - and have always hated the Jews". We'll be insulted, tracked ..... but we can help keep channels open for those who want to know & understand
 

Evelyn B (61)
Tuesday February 23, 2016, 5:15 pm
Thanks for posting, Lynn
 

Edith B (146)
Tuesday February 23, 2016, 9:18 pm
I read the whole article and I am dismayed that the Israeli's, who know well what prejudice and hatred can do, are so willing to cooperate with a government gone nuts.
 

Dt Nc (0)
Tuesday February 23, 2016, 10:27 pm
danke
 

Sam H (410)
Tuesday February 23, 2016, 11:58 pm
It must have been quite challenge to come up with only five!
 

Rose B (141)
Wednesday February 24, 2016, 1:12 am
Sickening
 

Janis K (126)
Wednesday February 24, 2016, 5:05 am
Thanks for sharing
 

. (0)
Wednesday February 24, 2016, 7:50 am
Israel urgent isolation.
 

Hartson Doak (39)
Wednesday February 24, 2016, 9:09 am
Inequity, hate, injustice, misdirection, scapegoating, blaming are common when the root cause of an issue are not addressed. Israel and Palestine need to coexist. There are those that can not accept this for what ever reason. Till they are convinced of this need, there will be these violent issues.
 

Peggy B (43)
Wednesday February 24, 2016, 9:44 am
Thanks for sharing Lynn. We need to see this side.
 

Evelyn B (61)
Wednesday February 24, 2016, 11:18 am
Hartson .... not only convinced of the need, but prepared to negotiate live-withable compromises in the process of building the foundations of peace ...... Because nobody can have EVERYTHING they want, however much they see this as a right .... they'll have to cede in order to coexist in an equitable peace (one state or two .... same problem either way)
 

Birgit W (160)
Wednesday February 24, 2016, 1:06 pm
All what people want no matter what countries they are coming from is peace. Thanks for sharing Lynn.
 

Janet B (0)
Wednesday February 24, 2016, 2:36 pm
Thanks
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Wednesday February 24, 2016, 3:23 pm

Thanks Lynn for putting up this article - I've read it on AlterNet. I also read some of the comments there and wasn't surprised to find a Robin Rosenblatt who pushes the Islam issue to the fore trying to burry the Jewish issue. Why does this remind me so much of Care2 members - LOL? All too familiar behavior which makes things only worse.

David Sheen, the author, also elaborated some of the topics about racism and incitement in this lecture. It’s a puzzle to me that the Western press pushes this so easily aside. At least I haven’t read much of an outcry …

Rabbi Shapira’s book, Torat ha-Melekh [The King’s Teaching], which is also mentioned in this article (English translation), is absolutely despicable. Excerpts of it were published in the Maariv Newspaper by Roi Sharon on November 9 2009 [page 2 with front page teaser]. Haaretz too run an article and so did many other newspaper. Where was the outrage? Imagine just 1% of this being written by a Christian or Muslim about the Jews?!

Avika Eldar (Haaretz) noted on Nov. 19, 2009 in his article, that the Yeshiva of Rabbi Shapira is funded by the Israeli government, an info based on data of Yesh Din.

It’s stomach turning. Worse yet was the Rabbinical Conference of that year where some 260 participants … endorsed this vile book!

Yet – silence in the West. We only and exclusively hear that some Muslim clerics and politicians incite the Muslims to kill Jews and Christians. The other way around is silence … business as usual.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Wednesday February 24, 2016, 3:31 pm


(English translation)

After reading your article I searched for a video I saw some 10 days ago by nobody less than “the” Dershovitz; yes, the one with a preference for sex with under-aged girls who was hiding in Israel for some time (don’t know where he is right now but it doesn’t matter to me – he is plain evil!). Dershowitz Exposes the Evil Double-Standard Against Israel

Now compare what he says to the article and video above.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Wednesday February 24, 2016, 3:32 pm

Sorry the first link (English translation) got copied by mistake - it is already in my first comment above.
 

Colleen L (3)
Wednesday February 24, 2016, 10:46 pm
Disgusting. Thanks Lynn
 

Dt Nc (0)
Wednesday February 24, 2016, 11:00 pm
danke
 

Roslyn McBride (34)
Thursday February 25, 2016, 3:26 am
Noted
 

Terrie Williams (798)
Thursday February 25, 2016, 7:27 am
Sigh......it will never end.
 

Evelyn B (61)
Thursday February 25, 2016, 12:11 pm
Terrie - it could end ...

But only when the same laws are applied to perpetrators of such crimes irrespective of whether they are Arab or Jew or other racial group .....
And there ARE Palestinians & Israelis who are seeking for such developments - for example, see
To My Fellow Israelis: We Can Stop This
 

Lynn Squance (235)
Friday February 26, 2016, 11:54 pm
Hartson --- "There are those that can not accept this for what ever reason." It is better put "There are those that WILL not accept this for what ever reason."

Every country has laws that affect one group more than another. It is just that some are more profound than others, more egregious. And those in Israel fit that thinking.

Thanks everyone!
 

Alexa R (319)
Sunday February 28, 2016, 1:16 am
Some good news:

RA, West Bank — A Palestinian prisoner ended 94 days of his hunger strike on Friday after reaching a deal with Israeli authorities that says he will be released in three months’ time, his family said.

Israel says 33-year-old Mohammed al-Qeq — who has worked as a journalist for a Saudi media outlet and who also appeared as an analyst on channels connected to Hamas — has long been involved in activities linked to the violent Palestinian Islamic group. He has been under observation at an Israeli hospital where he refused all treatment.

source
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Sunday February 28, 2016, 9:35 pm
I clicked through to the Alternet article and it was no better than the bulk of other Alternet articles that I have seen.

Case #1: It is apparently incitement on the part of the Israeli government, according to the Alternet article, that Israeli law draw its line on incitement between the direct advocacy of crime against identifiable targets with instructions as to how to go about such attacks, and incitement couched in religious interpretation. If Israel had consistently applied anti-incitement laws to cases of religious interpretation, it would have rounded up and arrested a substantial portion of Islamic leaders within its territory. Then Alternet writers would have had something else to complain about, and they would have complained more loudly. Perhaps they should be "thankful" that Israel permits such incitement.

#2: Apparently for the most appalling cases of incitement "this week", the Alternet author had to pull up stuff from last year. I'm not saying it's okay to celebrate the death of a baby like those people in the idea apparently did. That really is appalling. However, it should be put in proper context, not presented as a new event. As for the video of the IDF's chief rabbi dancing with one of he authors of the "King's Torah", I am interested in when the video was taken. Was it recent? Again, the views in "The King's Torah", if it is as presented, are abominable and people in positions of authority should distance themselves from the author, but unless it happened this week, the connection should not be given explicitly misleading context.

#3: There appears to be a fundamental misunderstanding in Alternet of what "minimum amount of force necessary" means. It's not just the minimum necessary to subdue the stabber, but the minimum necessary to do so safely. An active, armed assailant cannot just be tackled, and in these cases it cannot be assumed that authorities can afford the risks of normal police work. The difference is that in normal police work, the police can bring in a level of overwhelming force, which permits greater risks, that cannot be applied in cases like the ones in question. Welcome to war. It stinks.

#4: The use of sexism to drive segregation is not okay.The propaganda of presenting snippets of footage without context is not okay either. Welcome to Middle Eastern propaganda. This is nothing new. While it is troubling incitement, this is amateur-level stuff as far as the area goes. If that is the most appalling incitement from Israel this week, I'd say Israel is doing pretty well at self-policing.

#5: I followed the link in it to the source-article in Mondoweiss. The article itself says that it's far-fetched to presume that the exam is trying to compare refugees to rats, except for the similarity in names of the facility to which the rats would be sent and the prison-facility for unverifiable migrants in Israel. Both names, "sands" and "winds", are feminine-plural. That's the reasoning used to call it a comparison. It's ridiculous.

So what we've found here appear to be a troubling case from last year and a standard piece of propaganda making the news in Israel. Not good, but by frankly any standards anywhere on Earth, pretty tame. Why all the outrage?
 

Evelyn B (61)
Monday February 29, 2016, 3:41 am
Stephen - not interested enough to check for yourself, apparently!
# 2 video - tweeted Feb 14th - NOT last year (although part of a tragic context that started last year & that is causing on-going problems)
#3 - videos on the spot have shown a number of extra-judiciary deaths where the supposed assailant is not in a position of offering immediate threat - For Palestinians, the rule is "shoot first, ask questions after (perhaps); for Israeli terrorists this is not the rule. Be honest ...
"In other words, over half of Israeli Jews believe 14-year-old Palestinian girls wielding sharp objects should be shot to death." Do you really agree with this, Stephen?

#5 You seem to be in more denial of the parallel than the man setting the question - who called it "humour"!
Of course, if one excludes the story from a context where dehumanising those who are not of the dominant ethno-religious category is common practice - and triggers behaviour & attitudes dehumanising such people (concurrently dismissing their "human" rights since they are less than human) ... then one can say "why the fuss" ... but this IS in such a context.

Disappointing, Stephen - as it comes from someone who "tries" to be open-minded.
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Tuesday March 1, 2016, 2:01 pm
Hi Evelyn :)

#2: Interestingly, that was tweeted from the account of a reporter from Channel 2, the same station that aired the propaganda video. When I referred to the Alternet article including stuff from last year as being from "this week", I was referring to the second paragraph, with the stabbing of the photograph. It linked to this article from last December: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.693528

#3: The difference between handling of Jewish and Palestinian terrorists comes from two sources, the terrorists' behavioural profile and the authorities' operational freedom. First, when Jewish terrorists attack, the profile has been of single attacks per terrorist, not strings as seen in the stabbings. Authorities are not in as much of a hurry to neutralize (kill or capture) Jewish terrorists because there typically aren't more lives on the line within minutes. Aside from that, Jewish terrorists typically plan on surviving, which means they will not be as aggressive with arresting authorities, which allows those authorities to take greater physical risks. Second, when it comes to operational freedom, which I believe to be the primary driver of the different treatment, Israeli authorities can safely and easily gather a large force within Jewish terrorists' communities. When Palestinian terrorists go home, Israeli authorities run into massive legal and practical challenges in any attempt to arrest the there. It is still sometimes done, but if a Palestinian terrorist is not stopped on the spot, authorities will typically have to wait for the next attack to get another opportunity.

When it comes to shooting them even after the immediate attack, we have to consider that in the early days of the stabbings, before soldiers were permitted to shoot, no stabber ever stopped without being arrested or killed. They continued killing typically minutes later, if not immediately. Police and soldiers cannot safely approach stabbers unless they have been disarmed or physically disabled. I saw a video earlier of a stabber getting shot while charging at a soldier with a knife: He drew his knife and made it halfway across a street before the soldier could get a shot off. Remember that the reason police officers have such a high standard of avoiding brutality is that with overwhelming force and typically non-aggressive criminals, they can play nice safely. Israeli soldiers have no such luxury.

As for the shooting of physically disabled stabbers, there is only one circumstance in which it could be appropriate: Soldiers tend to become familiar with which wounds can be treated and which ones lead to slow painful deaths. They have a tradition of "professional courtesy" (mercy-killing) for clear cases of the latter.

#5: The humour was pretty clearly in the reference to the Pied Piper in the question (the part about the city employing a "magic flutist" to capture the rats). There was no racist connotation in the question.

The issue of it being in the context of claims of other cases is part of the problem. This story is an effective microcosm of the entire hard-Left critique of Israel: There are some true cases in there, but in order to show a pattern which supports the desired narrative, a lot has to be fabricated. Then that narrative and pattern are used to bolster the fabricated claims in what is effectively circular "logic".
 

Evelyn B (61)
Tuesday March 1, 2016, 2:40 pm
That there are cases of knifings ... yes.
But they too are almost all individual attacks ...
And there are also a number of videos filmed by bystanders where the killing of a Palestinian just on the word of someone saying that he or she is armed (with others saying this isn't so) are also out there. But the policy if kill first, check after (if one can ....) & there are not published reports of investigations for many cases.

The facts appear to be that far from all the (executed) accused were actually carrying any form of arms. The sheer numbers of dead youth should raise questions ... but it is hardly likely that an honest admission of error, hasty killing of an innocent, would be widely published as this would be very bad for .... "morale".

Meanwhile, all those deaths feed the very grief & frustration that sends out stone throwers or blade-bearers from among siblings, cousins, friends .... who see the discrimination & lack of real justice process for Palestinians.

Violence feeds violence, provokes more reactions - & the cycle of violence continues. With a relatively small number of bereaved Israeli families, and a larger number of bereaved Palestinian families.

Denying very real provocation & the reality of excessive violence from BOTH sides supports the climate of violence.

It has to end - but will only end when the stronger side really controls their contribution, and sincere efforts to discuss & negotiate are actively encouraged. Your right-wingers are not interested - and you reject the left-wingers who are prepared to reach out. Leaves little room for hope.
 
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