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Squatch's Open Thread 21/06/2016

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Campaign 2016, Clinton, Donald Trump, GOP Hypocrites, GOP Lies, InsaniTEA, Net Neutrality, TEAbuggery, Wall Street, Warren )

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3 short takes, My Universe, Jigsaw Puzzle


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Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 7:17 pm
Yeah the GOP are hypocrites ...but most of the Dems are too. Very few politicians in our country deserve our respect or the office they hole. Thank you, TC, for the article and Lynn for the forward.

LaurenBackSoon Kozen (173)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 7:34 pm
Thanks for sharing Lynn.

Joanne Dixon (37)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 8:23 pm
4:32 A real ice cream cone would look pretty good about now. Plastic, not so much.

AlterNet - Since, regardless who runs for Vice President and holds the office, the de facto VP is going to be Bill, I'm not sure why anyone would want the job.... I've been saying the candidates should keep hands off the Senate in picking VPs; now I'm thinking hands off the House too. Possibly someone who lost a primary might benefit - thinking of Donna Edwards, who is much better than her resume.

TP - They'll have to put in a Republican President first. One vacancy already, and rumblings that Thomas might retire. VOTE BLOU NO MATTER WHO.

HuffPo - Said Cheeto Jesus. Right. Hillary's first book was pretty clear on how her faith informs her politics. Donald - well, I think this might show his faith -

Univere - adorable.

Off topic - This quote from a British newaspaper via an Australian blogger has a lot to say -
A scene of modern Britain played out on a rail replacement bus service in Newport yesterday. A woman wearing a niqab was chatting to her son in another language. After five minutes, a man suddenly snapped, "If you're in the UK, you should speak English." At this, another passenger turned round and explained: "We're in Wales. And she's speaking Welsh."

J.L. A (281)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 9:02 pm
Sounds like corporate control to me that won't allow progressive ideas.

Kudos to the court--now to stop Congress from trying to undo it.

I'll skip the troll and go for the ice cream--much cooler.

Walter F (128)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 9:27 pm
Thanks for sharing Lynn

Jim Phillips (3247)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 10:25 pm
Comment in Joanne' box above.

lol! Love your "off topic".


Evelyn B (63)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 11:06 pm
I received tha cutting about that, too, Joanne! I love it! I think I can guess what the Englishman plans to vote on Thursday!!

The Alternet article indicates the quality of analysis among Clinton supporters:
"But more moderate Democrats in the financial services industry argue that Sanders voters will come on board anyway" ... Some of them may, but I hear voices that indicate that many won't. This seems to underline a combination of arrogance & wishful thinking. Sanders' voters won't vote Trump, but there are other options to switching to HC: no vote (which could be equivalent to voting Trump because it reduces further the possibility of saying "We don't trust EITHER & want something else", or a strong 3rd party (which could break the 2 party monopoly).

Evelyn B (63)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 11:18 pm
Depressing how "normal" it is to place "donor appeal" value before "people appeal"!
Despite what Bernie has demonstrated about avoiding the big donors who then carry weight on policy ...

Gloria picchetti (304)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 5:08 am
I hope TC will be OK. I have a busy day too.

Animae C (508)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 5:46 am
Thanx Lynn

Gene J (289)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 6:07 am
" But now, I see things differently. Even having Warren as VP would tend to muzzle her, making her impotent at what she does best."

I love Elizabeth, have since her run against Scott Brown when she was on Rachel's show so often (last time, Rachel said, rather diffidently, at the end of the interview, she's MY senator!). She is just SO right on everything. And she's said all along she wasn't running for POTUS, and I believed her. She was the first politician outside my state to whom I sent contributions, Bernie was the second. Hillary doesn't need my money. If that quote is true, and I have my doubts, then she ought publicly disavow it. Anything else makes it seem she really IS in their pocket and she cannot have that be her image, any part of it. She needs the people Bernie brought into the process and we all need his ideas in the 2016 platform. I know Elizabeth is the same age as Hillary so I'm thinking she will probably stay in the Senate, which is just fine with me, she should be majority leader when Reid is gone and we take the Senate back this fall.

Drumpf is such an idiot. Apparently he didn't see the pictures of the Clinton's at church every Sunday. Which, of course, means they don't exist. In his broke and twisted mind. But I did. He is going to lose by the biggest margin ever - which is fitting considering he does everything that way. Moron.

Lona Goudswaard (66)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 7:26 am
Thanks for your tenacity in posting, Lynn. Please don't take it out on your laptop, it's so new you might be arrested for computercide and infanticide. Is it a Wordpress problem, or do you first write your article in Word, which works best for Joanne and me, and then have it disappear before you can copy it in?
Your weather sounds very much like the weather we've been "enjoying" for the past weeks here.

Alternet: Wall Street donors saying " we understand all the things you’ve had to do because of Bernie Sander, but if you are going there with Warren, we just can’t trust you," really makes it sound like Hillary Clinton told her voters a pack of lies just to get the vote in and drop the facade as soon as she's in the White House, just as Bernie supporters have suspected her of doing. Now it seems Wall Street feel the need to blackmail her, because it may turn out she's been in fact lying to them? Or do they just want an excuse to put their money towards Drumpf, because they can be certain of him having their back? Or is this just a ruse instigated or paid for by Drumpf, trying to make Bernie supporters turn their backs on Hillary? Very confusing.

TP: Excellent ruling that could have far spread consequences, but as you say, Lynn, only for as long as it lasts.

HP: Drumpf is simply not capable of winning the race on his own political or personal merit; all he has is slinging mud, smear-campaigns and attacking his opponent personally in the hope he can destroy their reputation. Now the Washington Post and other media are digging into his business and personal life and are taking the lid off of the Drumpf cesspool, he's in desperate need of drawing attention away from him, and we're bound to see more and more of this in the next five months. This "not-Christian" attack is preaching for the Republican evangelist choir, didn't work on Obama then and won't work on Clinton now: too many people of other faiths, America becoming more secular in general and most still valuing the separation of church and state.
But there's one good thing about Drumpf: he globally inspires people to some great art ;-)

My Universe: Aaaaawwwww

Jim Phillips (3247)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 8:58 am
Alternet: I don't think Hillary will pick Elizabeth as a VP choice. Warren is so much more effective as a Senator than she would be as a VP. Warren would be most effective as a senate majority leader.

Think Progress: Big internet providers, businesses and its GOP servants want to control, to their advantage, what people do with and in their pursuit of internet information. We must always strive to keep and maintain that the internet remains open and neutral.

HuffPo: Religion certainly does crop up from time to time as an issue. Remember Kennedy's catholic religion when he was running for office back in the '60's? Our founding fathers made sure that religion and state were two separate things.

Drumpf needs to shut up on religion and mind his own business. He is obviously a poor speaker and less knowledgeable on this issue. All Drumpf does is to sling mud and doubt into the minds of whoever listens to him. Drumpf is running a dirty campaign. A pathetic buffoon.

TABBY: Very creative and excellent art works. Drumpf certainly is a creditor skipping troll. "Love Trumps all" art work shows Drumpf loving himself - of course!
He's a narcissistic megalomaniac. lol.

Universe: Cute. Towards end of video, there is a link to see both of them 3 years later. A strong bond.

Sonoma is going into mid to high 90s temps this week. Ugh!

Scott S (14)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 9:34 am

divergent revolution (309)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 11:48 am
keeping tc im my hopes
thanks Lynn for working SO HARD!!

David C (75)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 12:06 pm

Pat B (354)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 12:57 pm
AN: I'm hoping that Ms. Warren stays where she's at...she is very effective there.

TP: Great news!!

HP:What an airhead! I think he just talks ... to hear himself talk.Enjoyed TABBY's artwork, he's a talented artist.

My Universe: How simply adorable!!! Loved this.

*Off Topic comment by Joanne: Snap!! ;-)

We still have the road crews upgrading the roads here from last flood. I hope the folks in your northern areas will be all right. Then we have the fires in CA/AZ/NM. It's awful. Take care, and Thank you, Lynn.

Roger G (148)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 1:18 pm
noted, thanks

Birgit W (160)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 1:27 pm
Thanks for sharing Lynn.

Sheila D (28)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 2:04 pm
Thanks for the info on TomCat. I agree about Sen Warren; she's making so much noise now about all the problems we have, why would we want to put her in a position where she couldn't say or do anything?
Having lived in Canada for a short time (apx 1973-1976), I seem to remember lots of wooden bridges that would just get washed away in any high water. Dawson Creek probably still has the same bridges now that they did 40 years ago.
DT is such a mess. He supposedly has all this money, but he doesn't pay his bills and now he has nothing for his campaign. Then again, I heard 20% of what was coming in was going directly to him. Plus the rape charges... What will come up next?
Love the puppy, and the followup.
Thanks for the post, Lynn. Try not to kill the computer.

Janet B (0)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 8:37 pm

Rose Becke (141)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 10:31 pm
LOL try not to kill th comp

Colleen L (3)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 11:00 pm
Thanks Lynn

pam w (139)
Thursday June 23, 2016, 6:28 am
"Computercide's" expensive, Lynn! Sorry you're having trouble...I know how frustrating it can be!

Lynn S (235)
Monday June 27, 2016, 11:42 pm
Thanks everyone,
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