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Hundreds Arrested Amid Violence At Mass Demo


World  (tags: Human Rights, protests, United Kingdom, March for the Alternative )

Barbara
- 2979 days ago - news.sky.com
Protesters smashed windows, lit fires and occupied shops in central London - as hundreds of thousands of people marched against government cuts....the majority of the demonstration - dubbed the "March for the Alternative" - was peaceful.



   

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Barbara D (70)
Sunday March 27, 2011, 8:29 pm
People are fed up in England, too!
 

Sally Ann G (256)
Sunday March 27, 2011, 8:47 pm
yes but they go too far in that city always have done and apparently always will and they are usually uni students or unemployed dole bloldgers worried that their unemployment or social health payments will be cut. My parents moved us from the UK because they could see this happening in 1969 and wanted us to have a safer environment to grow and live in. Now these same people are threatening to disrupt the wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton which is completely unfair to the young couple and the vast majority of the country who are more peaceful and less violent in their protests
 

Carol D (346)
Sunday March 27, 2011, 8:52 pm
Will it ever end!? I can bet the elite of the world are watching with eyes wide open!! Maybe they are hoping it gets worse so it will play right into their hands!!
 

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Sunday March 27, 2011, 9:11 pm
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Carole Sarcinello (338)
Sunday March 27, 2011, 9:22 pm

Glad you decided to post this, Missy Barbara!

 

Kit B (276)
Sunday March 27, 2011, 9:45 pm

Sure it will end - when the people finally realize they are more important then the moneyed class, more important then the corrupt corporations. When at last, We The People has real meaning and is not just words on a page or words used to subdue the growing anger.

Great find, Barbara - and Next? With luck - the USA from sea to shining sea. POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!
 

Michael Carney (217)
Sunday March 27, 2011, 9:45 pm
Noted...This isn't just an American problem, it's a World problem...It's the same though, because it's always the rich screwing the poor...
 

Robert S (111)
Sunday March 27, 2011, 9:59 pm
Hope we can soon impress them the way they are impressing us.

Thanks Barbara, huh, 13 of 15...well done!
 

michael sullivan (1022)
Sunday March 27, 2011, 10:16 pm
We've had it!
 

Toni C (508)
Sunday March 27, 2011, 11:25 pm
Noted and thanks for the article, Barbara... Something in the story bothers me... they were saying the troublemakers were part of a different band of protesters... all the other protesters were peaceful. We've been protesting here in the States, too, and perhaps this is something we should look out for. Everything's been peaceful so far, but who's to say the reicht wing fanatics won't get a bunch of thugs to do the same thing here... just to blame it on union sympathizers.
 

Stan B (123)
Monday March 28, 2011, 1:10 am
The thugs who went on the rampage in central London were anarchists and hooligans whose behaviour detracted from the legitimate concerns of the vast majority of people who atttended the peaceful demonstration.
I don't understand why the police allowed them to cause such havoc and intimidate innocent shoppers.
 

Angelika R (143)
Monday March 28, 2011, 2:43 am
thanks a lot Barbara for bringing on some European aspect. I have been following the pre-announcement of this event and expected rampage as usual. The UK hooligans are renowned for this, they get boozed up and raise hell wherever they go, only this time they needed no traveling and could do it right there at home.
Toni raised a valid point there, I too won't rule out that there will be organized disturbances from the TP loyalists as the "Wisconsin syndrom" may spread nationwide. And I hope it WILL!
 

Arild Warud (174)
Monday March 28, 2011, 2:55 am
People are fed up all over Europe,thanks Barbara.
 

Bill C (94)
Monday March 28, 2011, 5:48 am
I agree with Arild. Thanks for posting, Barbara. Thanks for forwarding, *C*.
 

patricia lasek (317)
Monday March 28, 2011, 7:09 am
More power to them!

Great post Barbara.
 

Amena Andersson (187)
Monday March 28, 2011, 7:12 am
Power to the People. Thanks, Barbara.
 

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Monday March 28, 2011, 7:30 am
I live in the state of Vermont. 13% of the population of the state want to secede. They are so disgusted with the federal unfunded mandates. Take this seriously because when we had the American Revolution only 22% of the population were in favor of severing ties with Great Britian.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Monday March 28, 2011, 9:07 am
People around the world are fed up with the unfairness of the Greed. There has always been a few that had a lot more, but the degree to what it is, and the media that can show how great a differance there is, is not at well taken by the masses that work hard and get little for their efforts.

More of the wealth is being sucked up to the top and they live like Kings and Queens, a few of them with their families and buddies, while the masses suffer daily with lack of the most basics, food, housing, medical. More and more of the masses are falling into poverty while the few gather more and more and share less and less.

Greed knows no bounds, and they did it to themselves by their greedy actions and total disregard to who they hurt and how they hurt the people and entire Countries for that matter. No it isn't limited to one Country, and the people urged on by knowing what others have done to make changes will rise up as well.

Toni is right on, I hate to see destruction by a few when the many are trying to do it the non violent way to get their point across. Then it only brings out the police, army, or whatever and that gets nasty. I'd like non violence as that would only grow, larger and larger, as the Elders join in, the families with children join in, the masses will arise more in numbers if they do not fear that violence will erupt. So I think they undo themselves with the violence early on.

Gov. Walker in the fake phone with the Corporate Koch brother, said he had considered doing so, bringing in the Thugs to start issues, but had thought at that point it would go against him. So that was the only reason he didn't, not that it was the wrong thing to do, not that a civilian may of been hurt, not that a police officer now would have to risk his or her life too. Shame shame on them all and we must be extremely careful that the extremist don't do more harm than good.
 

Jelica R (144)
Monday March 28, 2011, 10:50 am

This month there were protests in Germany, Albania, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Greece, Croatia, Czech, Hungary, Serbia with more announced in Ireland, Estonia, Poland. MidEast: Israel, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Yemen, Bahrain, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Kuwait...

Economic reality: you can't make everyone wealthy but you can easily make most poor.
 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Monday March 28, 2011, 10:55 am

Great comment, Jelica!

(Sorry, can't give you another green star.)

 

Jelica R (144)
Monday March 28, 2011, 11:10 am

Same here, Carole. Austerity on care2, shall we rally for more stars?
 

Barbara D (70)
Monday March 28, 2011, 11:38 am
So many great posts and opinions, so much helpful information. Thanks, everyone!

Jelica, it's mind boggling when you listed all places where there are protests currently. "Business as usual" may not go on for much longer for TBTB. As many of you have said, and Dandelion summarized so well, the bottom line is greed. That foundation is rotten. It's just a race to see which fails first, this worldwide corrupt system or our poor planet.
 

Carrie B (306)
Monday March 28, 2011, 11:59 am
Great post, Barbara!
 

Ellen W (0)
Monday March 28, 2011, 12:05 pm
Even the article states the majority of the demostrators were peaceful and a group of anarchists joined in. It is global issue they are standing up to Corporatism.
 

Evelyn Z (300)
Monday March 28, 2011, 1:55 pm
Noted. All great comments ( except the ADVERTISER Sdass D )
 

Robert S (111)
Monday March 28, 2011, 3:15 pm
federal unfunded mandates

I watched "Meet the press" a couple/few weeks ago and no matter what Mr. Gregory asked Michele Bachmann, she would answer with her talking point having nothing to do with the question. This observation brings me to a question. And I ask you BeeHive....What do unfunded federal mandates and Vermont's supposed unhappiness about them, have to do with this story?
 

Lynne Buckley (0)
Monday March 28, 2011, 3:26 pm
People are getting very concerned at the level of cuts. Like America, businesses and the rich are getting the best breaks, while the rest get to crash and burn.
 

Jelica R (144)
Monday March 28, 2011, 5:28 pm

Some commented about a lack of protests in the USA. Not quite so, folks. Check The Uncut USA Action map for Saturday March 26th, listing more than 40 events. Note that the Uncut is but one of many movements which are very busy these days. People had enough, and won't take it any more.

 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Monday March 28, 2011, 5:35 pm

That's very true, Jelica.

Just because mainstream media here doesn't report it, certainly doesn't mean it never happened!

LOL

 

Pat B (356)
Monday March 28, 2011, 5:48 pm
Thank you, Barbara for post, and Carole for FW. It's understandable that folks are at their limits, and aren't gonna take it any more...Good for them!
 

Jelica R (144)
Monday March 28, 2011, 6:21 pm

Fox News sample:

"Mass protests against Obama Care!" - in reality 17 people gathered.

"Dozen of thugs demolishing Madison, Wisconsin" - I think that at least here at care2 we all know that Fox can't count over 20!

 

Sheryl G (359)
Monday March 28, 2011, 6:32 pm
Yes, and all I hear out of Fake News is how....oh poor them, only the liberal media gets any coverage. Yes I know, how do I know they say this, in order to know what they are crapping about one needs to view from time to time. Thanks Jellica for the information given on this thread. I'd give you a green star, but afraid you got the quota from me.
 

Jelica R (144)
Monday March 28, 2011, 6:59 pm

Green star Fairy shines mercy on me and let me send a star to you, Dandelion, so I got brazen and checked Carole and, boy oh boy, it passed! I tried to sent you both stars earlier, but I could not. I should have bought a lottery ticket today.
 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Monday March 28, 2011, 7:05 pm

We luvs ya for tryin', Jelica!

LOL

 

Robert S (111)
Monday March 28, 2011, 7:08 pm
Thanks Jelica! Great link, site, video on the site, I got excited watching people doing something to fight back. Bank of America is bad for America!
 

. (0)
Monday March 28, 2011, 7:25 pm
As someone who actually attended the march,I will portray accurately what I know and experienced.The march consisted of between 300,000 and 500,000 people..though in all likelihood was far nearer to the larger figure,unions stopped counting at 250,000 some time in the afternoon.As I was leaving people were still streaming into Hyde Park by the thousands.The march was made up of people from every background..many marching under their own banner..nurses ,teachers,physiotherapists,occupational therapists,police officers (as marchers),doctors,blue collar workers,students,lecturers etc..To say that the majority would have been students and/or so called "dole bludgers"is ignorant (people who rely on less public money and do around the same amount of work as bankers..but people on the dole at a period of mass unemployment don't screw the economy like bankers..they are just unlucky) .Such ignorance as that which gives rise to dismissing genuine anger and fear as nothing more than a symptom of inadequacy is frankly offensive.What sort of elitest ignoramus would prefer people to act as unquestioning slaves to the banking and financial sector..Hard working people had come to this march to challenge the cuts..cuts to winter fuel payments for pensioners,cuts to services which deliver meals to the elderly and infirm ,cuts to the National Health Service budget..cuts to our wages and pensions etc and also to protest against the rises..rises in inflation (now at 4.4%) ,the large rise in all unemployment the rise in youth unemployment ,the rise in sales and good s tax by 2.5%..(while we all pay this tax,the level of corporation tax has been slashed by this hideous Tea Party government)..We have seen our economy shrink and the bankers bonuses rise..this was working class and middle class Britain on the march against injustice..and we were damn right to march.
Out of those hundreds of thousands,a tiny group of a few hundreds took direct violent action,mostly against property..this group were not representative..tthey were unlikely to be trade unionists (the march was organised by the Trades Union Congress) and they provided a tool for the right wing press to use to stereotype us all..that is all the mums,kids,pensioners ,hard working people and people thrown onto the scrapheap who marched against a brutal,extremist and unjust government .Some resisted by means of civil disobedience ..these occupied a bank and have occupied shops owned by tax dodging types like "Sir"Phillip Green,who although very rich,pays less tax than I (a nurse) ..yet this man advises government on cutting waste.The civil disobedience was from heroic UK group UK Uncut who campaign for fair tax..note to Tea Party types..when the very wealthy pay their share everyone else gets decent services AND lower taxes..it's simple really.Green and his ilk take billions out of the UK public purse..which if paid would fund hospitals and reduce tax for everyone else.
I'm very pleased that people stood up against the dictatorship of the corporate sector,stood up against paying our taxes into the coffers of failed bankers,stood up against vile cuts and stood up against the health service reforms which will result in the hiving off and ruination of our once brilliant health system..it seems that only business logic matters now..and people are irrelevant except as consumers and work slaves who exist merely to enrich enrich a tiny group of corpulent corporate parasites.Human logic has become irrelevant to our British government headed by Rupert Murdoch and others who seek to ruin communities and lives in the pursuit of rapacious empire building.What is a country if not it's people? well it is nothing if not it's people..yet we are ruled by a logic which dictates that only the bottom line matters..and in Britain we are ruled by a business sector whose executive arm within government is comprised of those from very very privileged backgrounds..most attended Eton or some other high fee paying school...most are thick and detached from the daily struggles to make ends meet ..to make a loaf of bread last until payday..most had mummy and daddy to featherbed their existence and ensure over promotion of their mediocre children.
The truth is that eveything we have..decent wages,decent services,union rights all need to be campaigned for and defended..and unless we do everything we have will evaporate into air.
There is an alternative to these cuts..it is called investment..and redistribution..there is an alternative to the health reforms (NHS has 64% satisfaction rating..yet the government would like to see greater scope for businesses to maximise profits so the system must be changed,against the interests of the nation..but in the interests of private healthcare providers)..it is this alternative that we were marching for.
This is my last message on Care2 .I rarely get chance to come on here these days..I have been working hard in my job as a nurse working on an NHS death panel (no dole bludging i'm afraid ..damn I could do with a bit of bludging ) and have tried at times to keep up my activism on several sites ..which is impossible..and although Care2 is close to my heart I find that the work builds up to unmanageable proportions whenever I take a break. I haven't had the chance to answer the 3,000 or so messages in my box..and the guilt builds up,so I need to streamline my more limited time and cut out the guilt .I do apologise to everyone who has mailed me and who I haven't responded to .I thank everyone who has been my friend..including those like Just C who is a real fighter for democracy,fairness and liberty..and with whom I have debated with vigorously at times.There are so many great activists on here who should be in those positions currently occupied by greeier,less humane and much weaker people..II am sorry I haven't managed to open and read the birthday messages that people have sent to me..thank you to all my friends who have wished me well..I am 45 and still alive and still ranting..
Keep fighting for democracy ,fairness and freedom ..those essential ingredients of any decent society..I hope one day that we acheive a kinder,more humane world,with a bit of market and a bit of socialism..and a lot of democracy and sense..Blue Ape/Progressive Panda//Rob Levy/ChangesOneBowie..England.
 

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Monday March 28, 2011, 7:31 pm

Oh, my dear Rob . . . I can now stop worrying about you!

You are as active and vital and on-target as ever!

[big sloppy kiss]

 

Barbara D (70)
Monday March 28, 2011, 7:35 pm
Progressive Panda, I am blown away by your courage, your heart, and your generosity in sharing with us so much information about what REALLY happened. This is fascinating. You and your fellow activists are an inspiration to the rest of us. We will greatly miss you, and wish you well in your endeavors.
 

Sue Matheson (79)
Monday March 28, 2011, 7:40 pm
thanks for the post.
 

Robert S (111)
Monday March 28, 2011, 7:57 pm
So much important said and so well. Thanks Rob.
 

Jelica R (144)
Monday March 28, 2011, 8:24 pm

Panda at his best! How I missed your comments.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Monday March 28, 2011, 9:31 pm
Rob, Jelica said it best.....we miss your comments and insight. It didn't surprise me to know you were there and that did cross my mind. Thank you for a first hand report and I can only hope that we can ignite so many here in the USA to do the same things in all the major cities. It's coming. We all have to do something, the world over. Good luck over there, we are all fighting a similar fight.
 

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Tuesday March 29, 2011, 4:42 am
Even before I read Rob's (Progressive Panda) comment, I found it really distressing that the article chosen here highlights what was very marginal violence, compared to the sheer numbers of peaceful protesters.

It's great, Barbara, to get Europe into the news here on C2 where US concerns, US events & US politics are far too dominant & outweigh events elsewhere (except major catastrophes) It is difficult to arouse any interest in other countries (except Iran & Israel, but that's another story!)

But after SEEING the huge crowds of peaceful protesters on French TV during the weekend and then reading the title of this post, I couldn't help thinking how this historic protest and all the committed and/or struggling people who participated were BETRAYED by such a portrayal of the event !

Nowhere in the title or description do we learn that this is about terrible , unprecidented austerity measures that are hitting the whole population. The emphasis on the violence & arrests steals the spotlight!

And isn't this just what the media do to satisfy their lords & masters? Smear the protest, smear the protesters!
Who wants to perceive events this way? Who wants THE PUBLIC to perceive events this way? Who benefits? The politico-corporate world of power!

I have said as much on the post of a different version of this protest and I urge you all to take a look at it: Half a Million People Descended on London to Protest Britain's DEEPEST CUTS TO PUBLIC SPENDING since World War II - 500,000 protesters marched in London on Saturday to protest Corporate Tax Dodgers
I'm sorry, but THAT IS NEWS!

Otherwise, Kudos to Jelica for her cotributions here !

And sorrow to find out Rob is leaving us. He has been such a great member & such a great friend. I have been a great fan of his posts, his comments and views. I didn't know why he had disappeared from the scene & his absence was a loss for me. Now that I know it's permanent, it's even worse! Sad loss for C2, Rob is really progressive, which is what C2 claims to be but in many instances is not.
 

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Tuesday March 29, 2011, 4:52 am
And -OMG- the fact that decent means of survival is being removed from working people might overshadow the 'royal wedding' ! Someone needs to get their priorities straight & develop a little social consciousness
 

Sheryl G (359)
Tuesday March 29, 2011, 6:44 am
Very valid points PeasantDiva appreciate the input. Yes, many of us who know Rob are missing his insights and offerings on here. He kept the eyes on the ball so to speak.
 

Deb E (63)
Tuesday March 29, 2011, 12:31 pm
I wish this news was about the U.S. It disappoints me to know so many in this country are so apathetic. I see it wherever I go - I see it every time I need to buy something and I cannot find anything at all made in this country to buy. Kudos to those who are standing up for what is right ... all over this world.
 

Barbara D (70)
Tuesday March 29, 2011, 2:04 pm
Thank you, David, for finding and posting a much more balanced and positive article on these demonstrations. Y'all need to check this out (wish I had seen it before I posted my article!):

http://www.care2.com/news/member/830975379/2760447
 

Jelica R (144)
Tuesday March 29, 2011, 6:58 pm

Kitty it is not so gloomy. You only have to dig deeper.
 

Jelica R (144)
Tuesday March 29, 2011, 9:21 pm

On April 4, 1968, Dr. Martin Luther King was assassinated while standing up with the 1,300 Memphis sanitation workers’ who went strike for a voice at work and the respect and dignity that comes with a union contract. Dr. King’s call was that the fight for civil rights and union rights was “moral struggle for an economic outcome.”

“The Labor Movement was the principle force that transformed misery and despair into hope and progress. Out of its bold struggles, economic and social reform gave birth to unemployment insurance, old-age pensions, government relief for the destitute and, above all, new wage levels that meant not mere survival but a tolerable life. The captains of industry did not lead this transformation; they resisted it until they were overcome.”

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Jelica R (144)
Tuesday March 29, 2011, 9:39 pm

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The efforts of the anti-war movement need to escalate as the United States conducts wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Libya. The Libyan war, which the administration refuses to call a war, is rapidly evolving. The U.S. attack which was initially called putting in place a "no-fly zone" is evolving. Now NATO, which will be dominated by the U.S., will be enforcing the no-fly zone and the United States will be focused on attacking ground forces. The U.S. is rapidly becoming an air force for rebels fighting a civil war. If Gadhafi does not leave quickly, but digs in for a civil war as his son has promised, then next steps will likely be arming the rebels, U.S. advisers on the ground (which have already been reported for one month) and then U.S. troops. And, of course, those troops will need bases something the U.S. African Command (AfriCom) has been seeking on the African continent.

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Please help spread the word! The major national Antiwar Rallies in NYC at Union Square, on Saturday, April 9 and in San Francisco on Sunday, April 10 are just 2 weeks away. Momentum is building based on the urgency of responding to the new attacks in Libya, no end to the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, more attacks and threats to Gaza, ugly attacks on Muslims, new attacks on unions and collective bargaining and a new rounds of cutbacks of every possible social program, particularly hitting the Black and immigrant communities and the unemployed.

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Jelica R (144)
Tuesday March 29, 2011, 9:51 pm

Each day I get at least one email like two shared here. So can you!

 

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Wednesday March 30, 2011, 2:52 am
I want to reprint Progressive Panda - Rob's comment which I have made more readable (for me, at least) by changing the spacing & some of the punctuation :

(I do love you, Panda/Rob Levy; and I love everything you said here in this comment. Going through it so I could better appreciate it, I have really felt every word you said. "people are irrelevant except as consumers and work slaves who exist merely to enrich enrich a tiny group of corpulent corporate parasites" really hits home. I am so sorry that you won't enlighten us any more with your spot-on posts, comments & historical knowledge. I also love your field of pandas in front of the Eiffel Tower, in my adopted home town)

"As someone who actually attended the march, I will portray accurately what I know and experienced. The march consisted of between 300,000 and 500,000 people..though in all likelihood was far nearer to the larger figure, unions stopped counting at 250,000 some time in the afternoon. As I was leaving people were still streaming into Hyde Park by the thousands.

The march was made up of people from every background..many marching under their own banner..nurses, teachers, physiotherapists, occupational therapists, police officers (as marchers), doctors, blue collar workers, students, lecturers etc.. To say that the majority would have been students and/or so called "dole bludgers" is ignorant (people who rely on less public money and do around the same amount of work as bankers.. but people on the dole at a period of mass unemployment don't screw the economy like bankers.. they are just unlucky). Such ignorance as that which gives rise to dismissing genuine anger and fear as nothing more than a symptom of inadequacy is frankly offensive. (Yes, frankly offensive!)

What sort of elitest ignoramus would prefer people to act as unquestioning slaves to the banking and financial sector?.. Hard-working people had come to this march to challenge the cuts:

- cuts to winter fuel payments for pensioners,
- cuts to services which deliver meals to the elderly and infirm,
- cuts to the National Health Service budget,
- cuts to our wages and pensions etc

and also to protest against the rises:

- rises in inflation (now at 4.4%),
- the large rise in all unemployment,
- the rise in youth unemployment ,
- the rise in sales and goods tax by 2.5%..(while we all pay this tax, the level of corporation tax has been slashed by this hideous Tea Party government).

We have seen our economy shrink and the bankers bonuses rise..

This was working class and middle class Britain on the march against injustice..and we were damn right to march.

Out of those hundreds of thousands, a tiny group of a few hundred took direct violent action, mostly against property..this group were not representative.

They were unlikely to be trade unionists (the march was organised by the Trades Union Congress) and they provided a tool for the right wing press to use to a stereotype against us all.. that is all the mums, kids, pensioners, hard working people and people thrown onto the scrapheap who marched against a brutal, extremist and unjust government.

Some resisted by means of civil disobedience: these occupied a bank and have occupied shops owned by tax dodging types like "Sir" Phillip Green, who although very rich, pays less tax than I (a nurse).. yet this man advises government on cutting waste.

The civil disobedience was from the heroic UK group "UK Uncut," who campaign for fair tax -- note to Tea Party types: when the very wealthy pay their share, everyone else gets decent services AND lower taxes..it's simple really. Green and his ilk take billions out of the UK public purse..which if paid would fund hospitals and reduce tax for everyone else.

I'm very pleased that people stood up against the dictatorship of the corporate sector, stood up against paying our taxes into the coffers of failed bankers, stood up against vile cuts and stood up against the health service reforms which will result in the hiving off and ruination of our once brilliant health system..it seems that only business logic matters now..and people are irrelevant except as consumers and work slaves who exist merely to enrich enrich a tiny group of corpulent corporate parasites.

Human logic has become irrelevant to our British government headed by Rupert Murdoch and others who seek to ruin communities and lives in the pursuit of rapacious empire building.

What is a country if not its people? well it is nothing if not it's people..yet we are ruled by a logic which dictates that only the bottom line matters..

and in Britain we are ruled by a business sector whose executive arm within government is comprised of those from very very privileged backgrounds. Most attended Eton or some other high fee paying school... most are thick and detached from the daily struggles to make ends meet.. to make a loaf of bread last until payday.. most had mummy and daddy to featherbed their existence and ensure over promotion of their mediocre children.

The truth is that eveything we have -decent wages, decent services, union rights- all need to be campaigned for and defended..and unless we do everything we have will evaporate into air.

There is an alternative to these cuts..it is called investment..and redistribution..
There is an alternative to the health reforms (NHS has 64% satisfaction rating..yet the government would like to see greater scope for businesses to maximise profits so the system must be changed, against the interests of the nation..but in the interests of private healthcare providers).. It is this alternative that we were marching for.

This is my last message on Care2. I rarely get chance to come on here these days..I have been working hard in my job as a nurse, working on an NHS death panel (no dole bludging i'm afraid ..damn I could do with a bit of bludging ) and have tried at times to keep up my activism on several sites ..which is impossible..and although Care2 is close to my heart, I find that the work builds up to unmanageable proportions whenever I take a break. I haven't had the chance to answer the 3,000 or so messages in my box.. and the guilt builds up, so I need to streamline my more limited time and cut out the guilt. I do apologise to everyone who has mailed me and who I haven't responded to. I thank everyone who has been my friend..including those like Just C who is a real fighter for democracy, fairness and liberty..and with whom I have debated with vigorously at times. There are so many great activists on here who should be in those positions currently occupied by greedier, less humane and much weaker people.. I am sorry I haven't managed to open and read the birthday messages that people have sent to me..thank you to all my friends who have wished me well.. I am 45 and still alive and still ranting..

Keep fighting for democracy, fairness and freedom.. those essential ingredients of any decent society..
I hope one day that we acheive a kinder, more humane world, with a bit of market and a bit of socialism..and a lot of democracy and sense..

Blue Ape/Progressive Panda//Rob Levy/ChangesOneBowie..England.


I had already discovered the 'heroic UK group "UK Uncut," which Rob mentions as being behind Saturday's London protest, thanks to a post, "UK Uncut Brings Grassroots Uprising Against Corporate Tax Deadbeats to America" from Norm, over a month ago. This led me to an article from the Nation who were the first in the US to report on the group & how their tactics & strategies could provide people everywhere with important lessons on activism.: "How to Build a Progressive Tea Party" Since then, there have been several posts on UK Uncut & their sister org, US Uncut.
 

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Wednesday March 30, 2011, 2:59 am
Jelica - you deserve a thousand stars for this:
On April 4, 1968, Dr. Martin Luther King was assassinated while standing up with the 1,300 Memphis sanitation workers’ who went strike for a voice at work and the respect and dignity that comes with a union contract. Dr. King’s call was that the fight for civil rights and union rights was “moral struggle for an economic outcome.”

“The Labor Movement was the principle force that transformed misery and despair into hope and progress. Out of its bold struggles, economic and social reform gave birth to unemployment insurance, old-age pensions, government relief for the destitute and, above all, new wage levels that meant not mere survival but a tolerable life. The captains of industry did not lead this transformation; they resisted it until they were overcome.”

And John, too :i haven't had time to check out all your links up there, but the one I did is great - BILL MOYERS JOURNAL | William K. Black | PBS

 

Jelica R (144)
Wednesday March 30, 2011, 5:19 am

I loved Dennis Kucinich speech in Madison.

Kucinich for president!
 

Jelica R (144)
Wednesday March 30, 2011, 5:22 am

Congratulations, Diva! You pushed David's Half a Million People Descended on London to Protest Corporate Tax Dodgers to a front page.
 

Robert S (111)
Wednesday March 30, 2011, 6:25 am
Great info Jelica, PDW, Thanks and yes, Congrates.
 

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Wednesday March 30, 2011, 8:01 am
From today's Guardian: " 'UK Uncut' arrests threaten future protests, lawyer warns" : Matt Foot, solicitor at Birnberg Pierce, says the detention of 145 activists will 'threaten the right to peacefully protest'
 

Phyllis P (232)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 6:01 pm
People are getting sick of being sh-- on by the government and the protections for the rich. What would happen if the tables were turned and those rich people had to live like the every day person? I am not against rich, I am just against the protections they get because of their money. Wtf? They sure can't take it with them when they leave this world. But it's not their fault. Government makes the rules.
 
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