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17 Million Americans Could Get Obamacare Subsidies: Report

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Americans, ObamaCare, cost, tax credits, subsidies, Obama, insurance )

- 2077 days ago -
Seventeen million people will qualify for tax credits to reduce the cost of health insurance under Obamacare, according to a report released Tuesday.


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Jason S (50)
Tuesday November 5, 2013, 6:34 pm
Good posting, thanks

Kit B (276)
Tuesday November 5, 2013, 7:59 pm

When can we stop screwing around with this and have Medicare for all? This is far more expensive and painful for those who will not get help but are still living on the edge. We know insurance is not the answer, we are just doing another bail-put for more failed companies.

Carrie B (306)
Tuesday November 5, 2013, 8:26 pm
Gee Kit ~ probably when the GOP/TP allow it ~ which means NEVER!

Lona G (66)
Wednesday November 6, 2013, 7:07 am
Another thing that you will never hear from a Republican mouth: you're premium may go up but that will be compensated for by subsidies. Yes, premiums might be higher than the current, but then you get better covering for it and 60% of you will get a subsidy which might even take your premium below the current one.

And I agree with Kit, things could have been so much cheaper still if it had been single payer from the start. It's a missed opportunity and not likely to return. At last not while there is one GOPer/TPer standing, backed by the insurance companies.

. (0)
Wednesday November 6, 2013, 7:32 am
Medicare was better. Thanks for sharing, Carrie.

Elizabeth M (65)
Wednesday November 6, 2013, 12:28 pm
I don't know enough yet about Obama Care yet to be able to make a responsible response.Here in Canada everyone is entitled to Health Care, and Seniors can get Seniors Health Benefits that are sent automatically to the bank, the amount depends on income from the year. Also people who cannot afford it, if on welfare they get coverage.
Thanks for the information Carrie.

Lois Jordan (63)
Wednesday November 6, 2013, 3:15 pm
Noted. Thanks, Carrie. It was unfortunate that this info wasn't explained very well to the general public via either the media or the Obama Admin. I also was for single-payer, Medicare For All type health care. It was clear when Congress was writing this that it wasn't a reformation of health care, just a reform of the insurance companies. I complained loudly, like so many others at the time....but we went unheard. Remember now, Democrats held the House during the writing of this bill. That probably angered me more than anything.

Past Member (0)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 1:35 am
Elizabeth Jackson, they could have used the Dutch model which is based on private insurance companies, but in ways that simplifies, not complicates. Lets look at it this way. Lona Goudswaard, here I am complimenting your country and your justifying a screwed up system probably because you have no clue what you are talking about. In 2010 the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projected that it would shrink employment by 0.5%. As health costs rise, companies are likely pay their staff less. A study in Massachusetts found that, roughly speaking, every extra dollar spent on insurance comes out of wages. Plus the CBO estimates that 44 millions Americans will remain uninsured next year.

Lona G (66)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 4:32 am
Your complementing the wrong country, John , because as usual you cry that you do your homework, but you can't see anything beyond your own bias and throw in some data that was handed out to you without checking what you are putting down.

The Dutch system is better than the ACA, as most (but not all) people are covered, but only marginally so because it is one of the worse in Europe and second only in costs to America, which is number one in the world. We were far better off with a NHS system for lower incomes and a private insurance above that, but it wasn't very fair.

The current system is a so called free market system, based on the from the US imported corporation greed, and has been a very costly disaster right from the start. Its incredibly complex, thank you very much, with the government trying to simplify it every year, making the care packages smaller and smaller while the personal contribution keeps going up. We pay for healthcare through two special taxes taken straight from the salary, by premiums for the insurance companies and when ill, by having to pay the first 350 before the insurance chips in. Simple, right? Yet healthcare costs keep going up as do the ridiculous profits the insurance companies make. The government tries to make the insurance companies put back some of their profits into healthcare, but still has to find a way to do it. They are also failing to keep the salaries of the specialists under control.

So I know that a single payer system is far the best option for ANY country, but as neither the US nor the Netherlands have that, I prefer our system where almost everyone, including the poorest, are covered for basic healthcare and hope that the ACA, with all its faults, will at least do that for most Americans.

Robert K (31)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 5:07 am
Primary health insurance should always be non profit. Vanity cosmetic surgery insurance, okay, but not cancer surgery.

France has the best healthcare system in the world, and as much as possible ours should be written verbatim to theirs. In English though. ;o)

. (0)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 4:19 pm
My first comment was removed and I have no idea why. So before I respond to John S., here is my original comment.

A few problems though with this model. It is a far cry what a relatively wealthy nation offers its' citizens. Obamacare forces (not that I am against the requirement of legislating health insurance) American citizens to purchase health care. So now we have created a huge client based for private, corporate insurance companies. In addition, in Obamacare, increase in premiums, or pricing isn't regulated. In other words, they can chose to charge whatever they wish. Back to the old model of capitalism which has proven to gut societies. Have the health insurance corporations shown themselves to be exceptionally trustworthy? No, they are one of the worst industry for dishonesty and sheer corporate greed. There are loopholes galore in this legislation that will ensure that many still won't have coverage and the coffers of the insurance industry will overflow. A single payer solutions costs less to implement and treats ALL people equally, not based on wealth.

Katie & Bill D (107)
Thursday November 7, 2013, 7:50 pm
All the more reason we should have had Universal health care.
Would have been simpler everyone would have it! Be nothing to worry about!
Thank You
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