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'Netanyahu Deliberately Torpedoed Meeting With Lapid'

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Yesh Atid accuses PM of planning in advance to worsen coalition crisis; Livni's party says he has already cut deal with ultra-Orthodox parties."Netanyahu was planning [to torpedo the meeting] all along, even before Lapid opened the door to his office,"...


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. (0)
Tuesday December 2, 2014, 7:29 am

The most honorable FUEHRER of GODS ONLY CHOSEN PEOPLE (heilT !) would never ever. (intentionally.)((admittedly.))


Past Member (0)
Tuesday December 2, 2014, 8:43 am

Lois Jordan (63)
Tuesday December 2, 2014, 3:38 pm
Noted; thanks, Carrie. Wow, it's really hitting the fan in Israel. Netanyahu wants all the power with no one getting in his way.

S J (130)
Tuesday December 2, 2014, 8:48 pm
noted, very exciting indeed! thanks Carrie

fly bird (26)
Tuesday December 2, 2014, 8:56 pm
You have that right,Lois.
thks Carrie

Carrie B (306)
Tuesday December 2, 2014, 9:45 pm
Netanyahu is a very dangerous man.

Arild Gone for now (174)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 3:00 am
Whatelse do you expect from a person with an IQ equal to his shoesize?

Lona G (66)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 10:40 am
As I'm working back to front, perhaps I better copy and rephrase in my comment given to your article "Palestinian Flag Is An 'Enemy' Flag- Netanyahu's Latest Crackdown", Carrie.

Netanyahu has been planning towards new elections for months now, waiting until the time was ripe to disband his own government. He has just kicked out these two center-left members of his government out because they would not go along with this host of right-wing, anti-Palestinian bills, and he has now called for new elections in May 2015, if I remember correctly. His only aim is to get reelected and to leave the left to their own devices and form a new, more right wing government with the (ultra) orthodox. According to the analysis I just finished reading in my Dutch newspaper, chances are he's going to make it because the electorate keeps shifting to the right and all these bills are just a way of paving the way to a right-wing government.

Bruce C D (89)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 10:51 am
Here's an oxymoron for you:

Livni said Monday night that the crisis, and the upcoming elections should there be any, were about “Zionism versus extremism.”

Bruce C D (89)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 10:56 am
Sadly, that appears to be a pretty accurate analysis of the situation, Lona. And Bibi persists in digging that hole deeper for Israel. Damn civil rights, human rights, the Geneva Conventions, and international condemnation, full speed ahead to Greater Israel!!

Past Member (0)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 11:01 am
Look at the polls.

Bruce C D (89)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 11:44 am
Hitler enjoyed public support for a number of years, too. Didn't make him right and it didn't make him a good leader for his country.

Past Member (0)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 11:51 am
That's not what I meant, so you obviously haven't seen the polls or you didn't make the obvious connection.

fly bird (26)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 12:59 pm
Netanyahu Fires Livni, Lapid

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu fired Justice and Finance Ministers for attacking his government’s policies, and criticizing him, bringing the country closer to new election.

Israeli Ynetnews quoted Netanyahu stating he will not tolerate ministers for what he called criticizing the government’s policies, and its head (referring to himself) “from within the government.”

Netanyahu decided to fire Finance Minister, head of the Yesh Atid Party (There is Future), Yair Lapid, and Israeli Justice Minister, head of the Hatnua Party Tzipi Livni.

The Israeli leader has officially ordered Cabinet Secretary Avichai Mandelblit to issue letters terminating the two ministers for their constant criticism of himself and his government policies.

Netanyahu will soon call for dissolving the Knesset, so that the country can head towards new elections.

He said that Livni and Lapid have been “harshly attacking the government” he leads, and that he will not allow any more opposition to “from within the government.”

Following the decision to fire Livni and Lapid, four ministers, members of the Yesh Atid Party, said they are considering submitting their official resignation.

Netanyahu said he will call for dissolving the Knesset and for new elections.

fly bird (26)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 1:02 pm
Israeli Elections To Be Held March 17

Israeli daily Haaretz has reported that the bill to dissolve the Knesset passed the first reading, Wednesday, in a 22 to 0 vote, preparing to head for new elections on March 17 2015.

The developments came less than a day after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu fired Justice Minister Tzipi Livni, and Finance Minister Yair Lapid.

Knesset Speaker Yuli Edelstein stated that heads of different Knesset factions have approved dissolving the Knesset, adding that Knesset members must grant the final approval.

Later on Wednesday evening, Knesset members passed a 22-0 vote dissolving the Knesset in the first reading, with only three abstentions.

Haaretz said the vote came just a few hours after the bill to dissolve the Knesset passed a preliminary reading with a 84 to 0 vote, with one abstention.

It added that the umbrella proposal grants the Knesset a period of three to five months to prepare for new election after the Knesset has been dissolved.

There will be two more readings at the Knesset next week, and after the approval, the Knesset moves to elections recess.

According to Haaretz, Netanyahu stated Tuesday he has no plans for a coalition of a right-wing block, and that theoretical talks of a "a center-left" bloc are likely to be fast.

On Tuesday, Netanyahu fired both Livni and Lapid after accusing them of trying to out throw him, and for defying his own polices, including his insistence that the Palestinians must recognize Israel as a Jewish State, and his policies regarding the “Iranian Nuclear File.”

fly bird (26)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 1:08 pm
Netanyahu To Dissolve Knesset

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said his current government became incapable of running the country’s affairs, and that he intends to dissolve the Knesset, to arrange new general elections as soon as possible.

His statements came in a press conference he held, on Tuesday evening, hours after he fired Finance Minister Yair Lapid, and Justice Minister, Tizipi Livni.

In a Televised speech, Netanyahu said that, under the current conditions, the government became incapable of running state affairs, an issue that affects its efforts to ensure economic growth and security.

He added that the former government was a “real unity government,” and managed to achieve many goals, but this government became unable to perform its duties.

The Israeli Prime Minister said the current government was forced on him, due to the outcome of the elections, adding that his Likud Party could not garner enough Knesset seats to be able to advance its policies, and run the country that way it desires.

He said that his government “has been slammed, and even threatened” by ministers who are part of its own coalition, adding that Livni and Lapid “held hostile stances.”

He said the two ministers defied his own policies, including his stances regarding the “Iranian nuclear file,” in addition to opposing him on main issues, such as his insistent of a Palestinian recognition of Israel as a Jewish State, his settlement construction agenda, and the construction of settlements in occupied Jerusalem.

In addition, Netanyahu claimed Lapid has failed in running the country’s economy, while Livni “violated a decision of the Ministerial Cabinet by holding a meeting with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.”

He also stated Livni defied his and his instructions, and made statements opposing Israel’s ongoing settlement construction activities in occupied Jerusalem.

The Likud leaders added that the government cannot function under the current circumstances, “while some of its ministers are attacking it from within, pushed by owned politics.”

Netanyahu said he would be seeking to dissolve the Knesset, and heading towards general elections in the country as soon as possible.

He also denied reports of an agreement with the Haredi ultra-orthodox right-wing parties, affirmed that his Likud party will be heading for elections on its own, and concluded his speech by stating that “Israel needs a big and strong party to lead it.”

Past Member (0)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 1:12 pm
Thanks, jess, for re-iterating what everyone already knows and which still gives you no understanding of the state of Israeli politics at the moment.

fly bird (26)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 2:41 pm
Thanks, jess, for re-iterating what everyone already knows ....
You are welcome.

Bruce C D (89)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 4:21 pm
The sworn duty of the hasbara is to obfuscate and mislead.

Political prognosticators who foresaw a national lurch to the right two years ago may have their predictions validated, albeit belatedly.

Right now this election is Bibi's to lose, rather than one that presages some sea change in Israeli attitudes. His numbers are bad until you look at the numbers of his competitors.

According to a poll published in Haaretz on Nov. 30, Netanyahu's approval rating is now as low as 38 percent, with 35 percent of those polled saying that Netanyahu is best suited to be prime minister. But, according to the Times of Israel, "The next-highest-scoring politician, Labor Party head Isaac Herzog, drew just 17% support ... followed by Avigdor Liberman (8%), [then Finance Minister] Yair Lapid (7%) and [Economy Minister] Naftali Bennett (6%)."

Coalition Math Still Favors the Right.
The issue for the next election is clearly not who's the fairest in the land, but who can put together a governing coalition. And despite Bibi's imperfections, he's still the go-to guy. One reason is that most of Netanyahu's rivals -- Lapid comes to mind -- just can't work with and won't sit down in the same government with the religious parties that are going to be critical to the next coalition. This fact also makes it hard to put together a left-of-center coalition and pulls the center of Israeli politics to the right. To defeat Bibi, you'd need a huge wave of voters to reject him and then pivot toward some other persona and party that can attract religious and right-wing voters but still sit with the center left.

Polls published on Wednesday indicate that Netanyahu's party is predicted to become the largest, but will remain short of a majority.

A new poll shows that Naftali Bennett is seen to be the leader of the right in Israel, not Netanyahu. Indeed, given that the right's bench is a good deal deeper than the center's in Israel, once the election dust settles, Benjamin Netanyahu might actually not look so bad.

In order to reach a majority, Netanyahu was forced to form a coalition with Lapid and Bennett, rather than with a number of religious parties to which he has always been closer. As The Times notes:

Mr. Netanyahu could not form a government without one or the other. They banded together and conditioned their participation on the exclusion of the ultra-Orthodox parties, Mr. Netanyahu’s longstanding allies.

Many Israeli pundits think this call for elections is about petty politics, small issues, personal rivalries, and Netanyahu's effort to gain an electoral edge by taking the initiative.

There's little doubt that Israelis are tired of hapless governance and failed politicians. The very fact that campaigns and elections are being scheduled at a cost of billions of shekels for reasons that are hard to divine or that appear to focus on petty politics and personal rivalries instead of big issues only reinforces the public's cynicism. At the same time, however, there's little doubt that Israel's public has moved to the right.

Stephen Brian (23)
Wednesday December 3, 2014, 7:25 pm
Is anybody surprised by this? I called this pattern of behaviour a few days ago on Care2, though I didn't know the polls there so I thought he would have had to follow through on the whole political trap to utterly destroy his main opponents, unless he plans on doing that during the campaign. The "Jewish State" law had zero policy-affecting content, regardless of whatever tantrums its critics threw, but very heavily politically charged language. It was an obvious attempt to trigger an election.

Here are the polls:

The leaders of both the Jewish Home and Beiteinu parties have histories of working for Netanyahu, and I suspect they will again. Right now, the three parties would get 53 seats, almost enough to form a coalition without including any parties which would demand significant compromises from Netanyahu. However, Kahlon probably doesn't have his new party-infrastructure set up yet, so if he wants to return to politics, he may have to rejoin Likud rather than compete with it. If he doesn't fall in line, if Netanyahu's coalition can get two-thirds of his former minister's supporters' votes, those three parties would suffice to form a coalition.

I suspect the timing of the election is based both on polls in general and an attempt to undermine Kahlon.
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