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New Documentary Exposes the Corporate- Backed 'Experts' Who Lie About Climate Change

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For Naomi Oreskes, professor of scientific history at Harvard, there's no more vivid illustration of the bitter war between science and politics than Florida's ban on state employees using terms such as 'climate change' and 'global warming'.


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Rose Becke (141)
Saturday March 14, 2015, 9:08 pm

Past Member (0)
Saturday March 14, 2015, 10:39 pm
I guess when 2/3 of Florida is under water, then the next term they'll have to ban is "sea level rise."

Darren Woolsey (218)
Sunday March 15, 2015, 12:52 am
Jeez, this is rather Orwellian in context. . .

Carol R (11)
Sunday March 15, 2015, 1:01 am
Outrageous, blatant ban of freedom of speech for political/corporate purposes. Hope someone challenges this.
Thanks Carrie.

P A (117)
Sunday March 15, 2015, 1:28 am
"In short, it’s a perversion of American notions of freedom, one that scientists are ill-equipped to counter. “The argument is, if you allow government to impose a carbon tax, then you’re going to surrender your liberty, personal freedom and individual choice,” says Oreskes. “That helps explain why this is such an American pathology. It plays into the cultural valences of individualism and choice.”

"At times, the argument has become entirely obfuscated and contorted by politics. It was, after all, George HW Bush who introduced the idea of carbon emissions trading . Liberals and Democrats opposed it. When it was found to work, and environmentalists embraced it, conservatives turned against it. That showed that Republicans have no serious interest in negotiating on this issue, says Oreskes. “They rejected their own principles!”

"Clearly there’s more than enough blame to go round. In the US, one green advocacy group recently ran ads asking: “How many light bulbs does it take to change an American?”"

That is a very good question - if they (surprise surprise!) abandon their own principles - how do you convince them? I think the answer is money - make it profitable for people to be Green and they will be....

I do disagree that some of the 'experts' against climate change and global warming are doing it from principle (free choice slippery slope etc) - their behavior seems to indicate that they wouldn't know a principle if they shook hands with one! I think their 'principles' would evaporate if they weren't paid well for them.

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 15, 2015, 5:04 am
Thank you.

Arild Gone for now (174)
Sunday March 15, 2015, 6:42 am
Hmmmmmmmm,must be something in the water down in Florida.

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 15, 2015, 7:11 am
No more excuses

pam w (139)
Sunday March 15, 2015, 8:25 am
When you've put all your faith into myths and is just TOO threatening!

Lona G (66)
Sunday March 15, 2015, 8:36 am
This documentary "Merchants of Doubt" is just hitting US cinemas, but it should be aired as soon as possible in the US, before it is too late and before it is banned just like state employees are banned from using terms such as “climate change” and “global warming” in Florida. Free Speech and double standards, anyone?

It's encouraging to see some people are taking this so seriously that they're starting to fight back with documentaries like this but also with for example the latest issue of National Geographic magazine with "The war on science" as its major article series on all the topics mentioned here too: climate changer, evolutionary biology, ozone depletion, the dangers of asbestos or tobacco, misconceptions about childhood vaccinations and autism etc. It's a start, but I doubt many conservatives in the US will go and see this documentary or subscribe to the National Geographic magazine, so a lot more light bulbs are needed to change an American and they better light them up fast.

Hugh Smith (112)
Sunday March 15, 2015, 8:41 am
Coal currently provides 40% of the world’s electricity and three-quarters of this is produced by the most-polluting, least-efficient and oldest “sub-critical” coal-fired power stations. The International Energy Agency calculates that one in four of these sub-critical plants must close within five years, if the world’s governments are to keep their pledge to limit global warming to 2C.

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Sunday March 15, 2015, 10:12 am
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fahad Al fahad (140)
Sunday March 15, 2015, 3:29 pm
noted ty

Lois Jordan (63)
Sunday March 15, 2015, 3:43 pm
Noted. Thanks, Carrie. Sounds like the perfect "follow-up" movie to Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth." Will definitely check my local movie theaters, so I can see this one, too.

Julie W (33)
Monday March 16, 2015, 3:43 am
"Rick Scott, instructed state employees not to discuss it as it is not “a true fact”.

Ignorant thing to say. Is there such a thing as an' untrue fact'? Idiot!

Past Member (0)
Monday March 16, 2015, 4:26 am
Thank you

Winn A (179)
Monday March 16, 2015, 6:48 am

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Monday March 16, 2015, 8:33 am
I'm stunned.....
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