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Confused About Soy?--Soy Dangers Summarized

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EXPLANATIONS WHY SOY IS DANGEROUS TO YOUR HEALTH (creating Cancer, Alzheimers and other severe health problems.


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Bryan H (2)
Monday February 28, 2011, 3:31 am
A worldwide conspiracy of all medical researchers is a bit far fetched

wolfNoFwdsPls a (135)
Monday February 28, 2011, 3:35 am
* (SEVERE) BULLSHIT WARNING * -- in some cases I can tell; so I'd not beLIEve any of the statements without reliable confirmation
'interesting' errrr "Alert!"


Parvinder kaur (45)
Monday February 28, 2011, 3:35 am
hmm... informative

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 4:00 am
Genetically Modified Soy Linked to Sterility, Infant Mortality in Hamsters:
"This study was just routine," said Russian biologist Alexey V. Surov, in what could end up as the understatement of this century. Surov and his colleagues set out to discover if Monsanto's genetically modified (GM) soy, grown on 91% of US soybean fields, leads to problems in growth or reproduction. What he discovered may uproot a multi-billion dollar industry.

After feeding hamsters for two years over three generations, those on the GM diet, and especially the group on the maximum GM soy diet, showed devastating results. By the third generation, most GM soy-fed hamsters lost the ability to have babies. They also suffered slower growth, and a high mortality rate among the pups.

And if this isn't shocking enough, some in the third generation even had hair growing inside their mouths--a phenomenon rarely seen, but apparently more prevalent among hamsters eating GM soy.

The study, jointly conducted by Surov's Institute of Ecology and Evolution of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the National Association for Gene Security, is expected to be published in three months (July 2010)--so the technical details will have to wait. But Surov sketched out the basic set up for me in an email.

He used Campbell hamsters, with a fast reproduction rate, divided into 4 groups. All were fed a normal diet, but one was without any soy, another had non-GM soy, a third used GM soy, and a fourth contained higher amounts of GM soy. They used 5 pairs of hamsters per group, each of which produced 7-8 litters, totally 140 animals.

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 4:20 am

When shopping for soy products and ingredients (i.e., tofu, tempeh, miso, soy sauce, soy milk), check that the word organic PROCEEDS the ingredient. If organic is not specified on the label, it is very likely that the soy ingredient is genetically manipulated and herbicide-treated.

Soy and its related products (soy oil, soy lecithin [used as an emulsifier in chocolate, ice cream, margarine and baked goods] soy flour, etc.) are in a large percentage of the processed foods many Americans regularly consume.

GMO foods raise many potential health concerns, including allergic reactions, decreased nutritional value, antibiotic-resistant bacteria, no long-term safety testing, ecological damage, increased herbicide use and more pesticides in food production

GMO crops have not been proven safe for human consumption. Modified crops can become resistant to herbicides which have led to an increase in herbicide use.

GMO means the genetic material has been altered with genetic-engineering processes. These processes use DNA molecules from different sources, which are combined into one molecule to create a new set of genes.


Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 4:26 am
According to the investigation, production of GM soy increased 35-fold between 1996 and 2003. And between that time, the use of Roundup increased an astounding 5600 percent, as farmers have to apply increasingly higher amounts of the herbicide every year in order for it to keep working. And in addition to Roundup, they are now having to apply the highly-toxic 2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic acid (2,4-D)chemical, which is known to cause neurological damage and chronic inflammation.

The report brings to light the dirty reality of GM soy cultivation, and the way the crop is discreetly used throughout the food chain. Even in Europe where consumers largely reject GMOs used directly in food, GM soy is quietly used to feed conventional livestock. And since food products that come from GMO-fed animals do not technically have to be labeled as containing GMOs, most consumers have no idea that they are present.

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 4:31 am

German small documentary, with English subs, about the perils of glyphosate resistant GM soy:

marta d (13)
Monday February 28, 2011, 4:38 am
I'm more confused than before: isn't miso a soy product? isn't it so, so good for your health? Or is only GM soy that is dangerous?

JustaHuman Here (53)
Monday February 28, 2011, 4:42 am
I am sorry for those who need to comment with words like "(SEVERE) BULLSHIT WARNING" and "mindfuck" that I did not provide a complete science report. But it is still allowed to think by oneself and get informed somewhere else.

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 5:12 am
Carrasco, director of the Laboratory of Molecular Embryology, University of Buenos Aires Medical School and lead researcher of the National Council of Scientific and Technical Research (CONICET), Argentina, is a co-author of the new report. The report is released with testimonies of Argentine villagers whose lives have been radically disrupted by the cultivation of GM soy.[3]

In Argentina and Paraguay, doctors and residents living in GM soy producing areas have reported serious health effects from glyphosate spraying, including high rates of birth defects as well as infertility, stillbirths, miscarriages, and cancers. Scientific studies collected in the new report confirm links between exposure to glyphosate and premature births, miscarriages, cancer, and damage to DNA and reproductive organ cells.

Carrasco said people living in soy-producing areas of Argentina began reporting problems in 2002, two years after the first big harvests of GM Roundup Ready soy. He said, "I suspect the toxicity classification of glyphosate is too low ... in some cases this can be a powerful poison."

Residents have also reported environmental damage from glyphosate, including damage to food crops and streams strewn with dead fish. These accounts are backed by studies in the report that show glyphosate is toxic to the environment.


Rajee Seetharam (138)
Monday February 28, 2011, 6:59 am
Thanks Amour. Noted.

Jytte Nhanenge (64)
Monday February 28, 2011, 7:24 am
Thank you for the post Ralph, and the additional information Amour. We need to have it posted on the Ban GMO Group. This is a good over-view. Whether people believe it or not, genetic engineering is a threat to our health and to the healthy of the environment. Please, in order to inform yourself better about this threat to your heath, become a member of the Global Alliance to Ban GMO Group here at Care2.

Annick Letourneau (67)
Monday February 28, 2011, 7:53 am
Merci beaucoup Amour xx

Apolonia Pl (392)
Monday February 28, 2011, 7:56 am
I was told some times by my doctors to NOT eat soy products because they cause many allergies. So since I stopped I felt much better...

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 8:51 am
I don't know what to be more concerned about, the affects of soy or the experiments on animals to prove the affects of soy. In any case, I will find vegetarian alternatives to using soy in my diet.

Kamakshi Ramaswamy (4)
Monday February 28, 2011, 8:54 am
Noted.Thanks Amour.

patricia lasek (317)
Monday February 28, 2011, 8:57 am
GM soy= BAD

Natural soy = GOOD

JustaHuman Here (53)
Monday February 28, 2011, 9:07 am

Please read the information first, before entering a comment here !

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 9:37 am
Noted, thanks Ralph and Amour. All GMOs and all the poisons used to grow them are unsafe, unhealthy, and destroying our food system and planet. Common sense and scientific evidence say should all be banned; corruption and greed keep them flooding the market.

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 9:46 am

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 10:12 am
Thank You Ralph*

Article Says:

Soy Alert!
Confused About Soy?--Soy Dangers Summarized

* High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not neutralized by ordinary preparation methods such as soaking, sprouting and long, slow cooking. High phytate diets have caused growth problems in children.
* Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause pancreatic disorders. In test animals soy containing trypsin inhibitors caused stunted growth.
* Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women.
* Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease.
* Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the body's requirement for B12.
* Soy foods increase the body's requirement for vitamin D.
* Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein.
* Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines.
* Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy food processing and additional amounts are added to many soy foods.
* Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous system and the kidneys.

Kenny V (173)
Monday February 28, 2011, 10:22 am
Marta, Miso is fermented and still super good for you! Yay! Don't eat whole jars of it a day tho,then it probably won't be!
I'm with Amour, Only use Organic /GMO free soy..(Avoid GMO everything since your looking!)....and eat a balanced diet. There are pros and cons like lots of foods and nutrients....
Is it healthy to have soy milk with soy cheese and tofu for breakfast- Tofurkey and soy cheese sandwich for lunch - A soy bar for a snack , and for dinner soy nuggets with potatoes , soy milk n' butter sauce stuff on it for dinner + soy ice cream for desert with soy chai tea ?
Take out the soy word for meaties and it's not good for you either!
If you care about eating healthy with soy, Eat it organically and don't replace it for the crummy animal based diet. Lucky for us there's also Mushrooms veggies, Fruits,seeds,nuts and grains too !

Try this link maybe ,i thought it was balanced and not pulling any sides on the soy debate One thing said which i hope no one disagrees on...
Use wisdom and Common Sense!
The Dangers of Soy Foods
Or Should It Be...
The Health Benefits of Soy

Thanks for posting Ralph ...and you too Amour for sharing too!!
Have a great week everybody!

Calle J (19)
Monday February 28, 2011, 10:48 am

Good read, but this time only available at your local bookshop (not in the web) is this:

Intervention: Confronting the Real Risks of Genetic Engineering and Life on a Biotech Planet

Problem with Soy is, it's added in most of our "convienient" - processed foods.
We should not only be on Soy or their genetically engeneering.
But their aim could be, they modify the top of the food chain.
This to consider as a possibility.
Thanks Ralph.
Your article(s) make(s) real sence and for me it's (always) food for thought.

Sir Walk F (124)
Monday February 28, 2011, 11:01 am
Soy has traditionally been consumed in relative small quantities, and generally only when fermented. Foods like "Tofu" have traditionally been used in fish and other meat broths in Asia, not as a whole meal.

Fermented foods like Tempeh and miso and soy sauce can be very healthy for you (non GMO of course). Eating faux meat soy products like many people in the West do in large quantities is certainly unprecedented in human history, and is absolutely as unhealthy as large quantities of poorly farmed meat. A 'soy burger' has as much (or as little) nutritional value as a mcdonald's burger.


Kath P (9)
Monday February 28, 2011, 11:07 am
Thanks Amour for the in-depth report. Thanks Ralph for starting the conversation. Organic is the way to go when buying soy. Seeds and nuts do a good job replacing meat, so no need to eat only soy.

ChanTlalok Rain C (363)
Monday February 28, 2011, 11:09 am
thanks, wow, what should we eat??????

Ian Donelson (149)
Monday February 28, 2011, 11:56 am
Okay this is a perfect example of how the emotional body (the ego) twists reality through fear and misinformation to make it harder for the subtle body (the soul) to do the good work. None of this is true. Cancer is the mutation of the natural process of life and death at a cellular level which is caused through toxic environments such as the genetically modified foods, the toxic textile industries, and lack of the proper nutrition our body requires. Alzheimers is a neurological disease and like all neurological diseases that have recently popped up in the past decades such as Huntingtons, Parkinsons, and the numerous others this is also caused by lack of nutrition that supports and protects our nervous system as well as inflammation caused by poor diet, toxic environment, and also again the genetically modified foods that we eat. Diabetes and other new diseases as well are Endochronological diseases which are manifested through our diet, toxic environment, and overall health of our subtle body. All of these health issues of the century are direct causes from poor health of the subtle body as well as non-organic low nutrient and phytonutrient based diet, as well as the poison that Big Pharma confuses people into taking based strictly on symptom control and not overall homeostasis and prevention. Soy, Organic Soy because if isn't organic it will most definitely be Genetically Modified has key complex proteins, phytonutrients, as well as low fat, low sugar, and low carbohydrates which makes it a very important factor in the overall health of our subtle and physical bodies.
Knowledge is Power. Truth is Love. Don't be Afraid.

Laverne Wallace (59)
Monday February 28, 2011, 12:27 pm

Andrea Connelly (94)
Monday February 28, 2011, 12:52 pm
I's been a while ago, but there was a study that linked the unexplained rise of peanut allergies to the starting time of mass soya crop production. Has anyone heard of this?

Dotti L (85)
Monday February 28, 2011, 1:13 pm
I just wrote a comment, before I could click on SUBMIT, it disappeared. Just wanted to say that I too am confused. Will re-read this article and try to "digest" it.

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 1:15 pm
I find this article creates confusion rather than dispelling it.

Communities renowned for very high consumption of soy, such as the inhabitants of Okinawa, show well above average health and longevity with very low levels of dementia, and studies suggest that there is a causal relationship involved. There is also no HRT used as women there don't tend to experience menopause.

If the claims of this article stem from, as some suggest, GM soy, or from the treatment and processing of soy or it's seeds, then that may be a different story, and should be plainly stated. On the best available evidence, pure natural soy is highly beneficial, and is one of the limited number of sources of complete protein for those who choose not to eat flesh of any kind.

Bruce Eyster (62)
Monday February 28, 2011, 2:26 pm
Noted with interest and thanks .

Eternal Gardener (734)
Monday February 28, 2011, 2:41 pm
Like already stated above; only use organically certified soy and don't go overboard on its consumption!

Helle H (21)
Monday February 28, 2011, 3:07 pm
I've stopped reading those articles. One day you're not supposed to drink milk, the next day it's something else you should avoid. I believe my body tells me what's good for me or not.

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 3:15 pm
All kinds of soy = YUCK! DO NOT EAT
eat beef instead!

Latonya W (82)
Monday February 28, 2011, 3:36 pm
Yeah yeah soy causes all these future problems(if its true) but it still beats the problems meat causes by a landslide..........

Marti Williams (170)
Monday February 28, 2011, 4:21 pm

Darcy G (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 4:46 pm
I try to stay away from any processed food/like products, and I always like to get updates and reminders as to why it is so important. Thanks ... much appreciated.

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 5:01 pm
I use Organic Tamari in cooking. And use it in moderation (its a seasoning, not the main ingredient).

Marta B (45)
Monday February 28, 2011, 5:36 pm
I don't believe a single word of this article.
I'm sure that the MEAT INDUSTRY is behind all that.

Luke K (7)
Monday February 28, 2011, 5:47 pm
Everything causes cancer, the point is poo

Beth M (46)
Monday February 28, 2011, 5:50 pm
..oh this is really strange...some years ago i decided to stop eating the flesh of horribly killed creatures..I did the stuff that was recommended..loads of fruit and raw tofu's and vits and minerals..balanced acid levels..lala...ate fish for a while then withdrew off that as well. was happy and feeling good..well..the first few months i went toxic..coz of all the crap coming out of me, after that i began to feel good..for a while..till my cartiledges began snapping..I went into iron level flatlining and my body started to fall apart..really rapidly...My oesophagus split one day..that really torn another 7 times after that..both my knees ripped in the same week..then both my shoulders..wont even go into the rest of it..anyways..went to see a natro path..then returned to eating limited amounts..still hate it tho..wonders if was all that soy i shoving into myself..i know loads of folks who successfully make the transition to no flesh and bi products eating. i also know of some folks who become really ill when they dont eat flesh..I never wondered if it mite be from the sudden vast intake of soy..gosh..thanks...x

Sir Walk F (124)
Monday February 28, 2011, 7:17 pm
@Richard S-Actually, people in Asia don't just consume large quantities of soy, they integrate small amounts of specific types of soy into a balanced diet. Tofu in broth, fermented tempeh and miso. Westerners are too used to eating too much of everything, so when they approach soy, they fry up a big block of Tofu. In addition, all sorts of processed foods today contain soy bi-products that are advertised as healthy, despite being unfit for human consumption, like soy protein isolate.

Sir Walk F (124)
Monday February 28, 2011, 7:19 pm
Funny read all the comments here that seem to think this article is saying we should all eat mcdonald's 'instead'.

Henriette Matthijssen (154)
Monday February 28, 2011, 9:16 pm
Thanks Ralph for the information! I have bookmarked it for further reference.

Mrs Shakespeare (35)
Monday February 28, 2011, 11:17 pm
I thought soy was good :/
Whatever, I dont like it anyways.

Julie W (33)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 12:14 am
I have heard both sides of this argument, and I'm still confused. I do know that soy products are better for you if they are fermented. Tofu is not fermented, tempeh is.

Tuesday March 1, 2011, 12:18 am
Ralph, I am sure this must give people a big wake up call.!.. I have read some of the negative things about soy and it is obvious that we cannot afford to do anything but to ingest soy with great caution, or take it our of our diet altogether. it would be pig-headed to say that this article is rubbish, especially if you had not done all the scinetific research to find out if it is true or not.... It is very annoying for vegans, because soy has always been deemed a great way to get protein into you, but we really must find out alternatives, we can't just go on throwing down soy into our system, unless this is found out to be untrue! we HAVE to keep open minded about things and not to deny them as being true becasue it is inconvenient for us! I personally think that this is a very improtant post!! thanks!

Sharon Balloch (127)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 3:55 am
When I first became a vegan I used soy a lot.. but as time went by I stopped trying to replace meat and just ate the meal without meat.. Much less soy used.. but at that time soy was a blessing.. as more folks become vegetarian the use of soy will rise.. lets make sure its healthy and not more harmful than dead flesh.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 4:52 am
Thanks for sharing~

Janine H (36)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 5:25 am
Thanks for the info and thank you Amour for forwarding. I'm with Helle, listen to your body/soul what's good for you. And, most important GO ORGANIC!

s ramakrishna r cheparthi (8)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 8:29 am
Soy is a widely consumed food item since decades. Excess intake of soy may give some adverse effects.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 9:37 am
The original article fails to mention that soy is the most commonly consumed GMO product in the U.S. and around the world. Any product not clearly labeled organic that contains soy is using GM soy. Most of the problems associated with over-consumption of soy can be avoided by consuming fermented soy products.

JustaHuman Here (53)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 9:53 am
I see that this article is too difficult to understand for some people (If they really read it). Will try to find sthg. easier next time.

Justin R (0)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 9:56 am
How does aluminum get into soy?
Was soy tested on animals which could not consume soy by genetic design?

Everything in exess is dangerous thus variety is important.
Every body is different.

Still will continue my vegetarian intake.

Jennifer M (78)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 9:59 am
Ha, I call bullshit!! Of course, GMO soy is bad for you. GMO anything is bad for you! And it's funny how many people have told me soy is dangerous because I'm vegan, yet they don't look at the ingredients in their processed junk, which ALL contains soy. I don't eat soy every day, and when I do, it's organic. I'm sure soy is much safer than rotting flesh from terrified animals. Wonder how much the meat industry paid for this nonsense...

Parsifal S (96)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 10:55 am

OMG, there is a very high percentage of commenters, not capable to understand the message:

Bottom line!

Please, gentle reader, try READ & UNDERSTAND prior posting your comments!


It is always hard work and delay to read all these comments, which they completely fail, fail, fail the topic.

And no, Ralph is not on the payroll of any meat industry.
He does not eat meat and financial is independent.

For advertising meat industry, please see the 24-7 commercials @ CNN or FOX.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 11:39 am

Catherine Turley (192)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 12:08 pm

weston price's primary goal is the promotion of dairy.

check out the link to vegsource at this site.

wolfNoFwdsPls a (135)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 12:33 pm
"" I am sorry for those who need to comment with words like "(SEVERE) BULLSHIT WARNING" and "mindfuck" that I did not provide a complete science report. But it is still allowed to think by oneself and get informed somewhere else. ""
I am sorry for anyone who needs to or does without need write like this, and uncritically spreads bullshit, whether un-knowingly or intentionally
tashi delek.

wolfNoFwdsPls a (135)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 1:18 pm


to pick just one glaring example:

""" Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin """

Glutamate is the most abundant excitatory neurotransmitter in the vertebrate nervous system.

Carol Dreeszen (346)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 9:52 pm
It's really sad that some people intelligence only allows them to be ignorant!! With an infected BS mouth!!!

Thanks Ralph for the very informative information! What next will it be that we can't or should not eat!?

Past Member (0)
Thursday March 3, 2011, 4:02 pm
Well, I have gone and done my homework, and the "information" provided by the Weston A. Price Foundation is highly questionable., and most of the condemnation results from saturation testing which bears no relationship to a normal diet. Under saturation testing, oxygen and even water can be regarded as toxins.
The health benefits of soy consumed as beans or as tofu. tempeh, miso and as soy milk are quite clear. There is no doubt that there are issues with GM soy, as much to do with high levels of herbicide as with the genetics themselves. There may also be grounds to question industrially processed soy, but more work is needed to establish the FACTS.
I have no idea what the agenda of the WAPF may be, but it does not appear to be objective in it's approach.
Just in case anyone wants to accuse me of being a militant vegetarian, I actually work in the meat industry and do not have any personal axe to grind in this matter.

Susan T (20)
Thursday March 3, 2011, 9:43 pm
Buy ORGANIC soy ONLY - otherwise it's GM soy. If you eat a moderate amount of organic soy every day (like a cup of soy milk) there is no evidence it will cause problems. Less processed food is always better.

Traditional Asian diets eat soy and have for thousands of years without many of the diseases we have in the West. People are overly paranoid about soy - although not paranoid enough about GM soy! Go organic, eat in moderation and enjoy.

JustaHuman Here (53)
Friday March 4, 2011, 9:09 am


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