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Mother Teresa, John Paul II, and the Fast-Track Saints


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Simon
- 3736 days ago - michaelparenti.org
Teresa's "hospitals" kept the poor in deplorable conditions, but she went to the best private hospitals when ill. She journeyed the globe to wage campaigns against divorce, abortion & birth control. Her soup kitchens fed 150, but she claimed up to 9,000.



   

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Joycey B (750)
Wednesday March 25, 2009, 4:53 am
Makes you kind of wonder about her. Thanks Simon.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Wednesday March 25, 2009, 3:50 pm
You're welcome Joycey : )

Did you read the article? There is much more in the article about Mother Teresa, Pope John Paul II, and the Catholic Church in general. With all that information, the case is pretty clear that Mother Teresa, Pope John Paul II, and the Catholic Church in general were, and are, not heroes or role models for thoe who want to increase human rights or equality in the world.
 

Judith L (0)
Friday March 27, 2009, 1:22 pm
Mr Parenti may have a number of articles under his belt, but he is waaaay over his head when speaking of things spiritual. I am NOT a mainstream Catholic any longer but object to such superficial examples intended to invite ridicule, not insight. disappointing....
 

Simon Wood (207)
Friday March 27, 2009, 9:09 pm
Hi Judith,
Michael Parenti writes facts about the real world, not spiritual ideas. (However, no-one is any more expert than anyone else in spirituality, anyway. We don't need spiritual guides. Guides merely distract us from our own spiritual discovering. If you want prrof for my claim, well, Jiddu Krishnamurti explained this very well.)

Do you deny these facts? - Teresa's "hospitals" kept the poor in deplorable conditions, but she went to the best private hospitals when ill. She journeyed the globe to wage campaigns against divorce, abortion & birth control. Her soup kitchens fed 150, but she claimed up to 9,000.

The article is full of these kinds of facts, that are not arguing about spiritual ideas, but instead show the reality of WHAT MOTHER TERESA, POPE JOHN PAUL II, AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAVE ACTUALLY DONE - real actions in the real world. No-one needs to know anything about Catholic spiritual ideas to discuss facts in the real world.

You claim that these facts are "superficial". What the hell does that mean? You claim that these things are "superficial":

Catholic Church support for fascist dictators like Franco and Pinochet;

Mother Teresa keeping the poor in deplorable conditions, while she went to the best private hospitals when ill;

Mother Teresa habitually lying about where charity money is going (e.g. feeding about 150 people but claiming to be feeding up to 9,000);

Mother Teresa travelling the world to campaign against divorce (despite parental alcoholism, domestic violence, child abuse, etc.);

Mother Teresa travelling the world to campaign against abortion (which is relatively uncontroversial in cases of rape, especially rape of children, and in all cases denies a woman's right to choose about her own body, and in practice means that some women have unwanted children - which makes the mother and child suffer - and some women have abortions anyway, but must have unsafe ones because Mother Teresa wanted it to be illegal);

Mother Teresa travelling the world to campaign against birth control (causing an increase in AIDS and other sexually-transmitted diseases, and makes pregnancy compulsory for women - an extremely sexist thing for Mother Teresa to campaign about).

Well if those facts are "superficial", then the word "superficial" loses its meaning, because those facts are extremely important to human wellbeing and happiness.

Educating people about these facts might mean that some people will ridicule the dishonesty, hypocrisy and fake righteousness of the Catholic Church. And if so, then great! It is healthy to ridicule dishonesty, hypocrisy and fake righteousness.

But the reason why I shared these facts with you all, is because the truth is healthy. Facing REALITY is healthy. And I wanted to show the truth that Mother Teresa, Pope John Paul II, and the Catholic Church in general were, and are, not heroes or role models for people who want to increase human rights or equality in the world. If we are interested in heroes and role models, for human rights and equality, then let's find REAL ones!!!
 

Haudeno Saunee (19)
Sunday March 29, 2009, 3:09 am
Judith M:

Although Parenti's article hit a raw nerve with you, Simon Wood's right. I read independent accounts on Mother Theresa's luxury air travels, stays in the best hotels, eating the finest foods, and hobnobbing with the elites while back in India the destitute under her "care" were kept in shabby conditions, barred from eating the food supplies that were supposed to be earmarked for them.

Then too, I have a book "Hitler's Pope, The Secret History Of Pius XII [Eugenio Pacelli] " by John Cornwell compleate with photos showing that sly dog pope meeting with the old seig heiler himself (this is the same Adolph wgo was backed by the large corporations like Gerber Foods, Dupont, IBM, GM, Ford, US Steel, Wall Street, et al.

The Catholic Church deserves to be ridiculed for its centuries of oppression, grave robbing, mistreatment, enslavement and genocide of countless indigenous peoples and their lands, artifacts, precious metals (gold, silver) minerals and oil...remember too that all that precious gold that the Church "owns" was purloined from INdigenous cultures!

OI course the Catholic Church isn't alone in this, other Christain racist sects were just as evil and vile doing theri share of rape, plunder, mutilation, theft, genocide, et al.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Sunday March 29, 2009, 3:26 am
Thanks for writing that, Haudeno Saunee : ) I agree with the extra things you wrote. : )

And actually, to add to what I wrote before, I have a couple more things I'd like to say:

Michael Parenti, the writer of the article that I gave above is: (1) a university professor, who would not risk his reputation by writing fraudulent articles, and (2) he did not make it up - he gave many references to the information sources for what he wrote - evidence - like all credible academic writers do.
 

Locan S (209)
Friday April 17, 2009, 9:11 pm
"The Catholic Church deserves to be ridiculed for its centuries of oppression, grave robbing, mistreatment, enslavement and genocide of countless indigenous peoples and their lands, artifacts, precious metals (gold, silver) minerals and oil...remember too that all that precious gold that the Church "owns" was purloined from INdigenous cultures!"

Let us also not forget the complicity of child molestation here in the US. The catholic church would be dead here if not for the illegal immigrants.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Saturday April 18, 2009, 6:29 am
Hi Locan. You wrote:

"Let us also not forget the complicity of child molestation here in the US. The catholic church would be dead here if not for the illegal immigrants."

First of all, no-one is "illegal".

However, if you in the Americas and you are not 100% Native American (e.g. Apache, Navajo, Lakota, Seminole), e.g. if you are white, then you are an immigrant who is there illegally, too. :P

Most immigrants who are not legally there by U.S. law are Native American - e.g. Indigenous American people from Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala....

The borders were set up by the white invaders, and have no legitimacy.

Furthermore, if you don't like people moving across borders to escape oppression, extreme exploitation and poverty, then make sure that you are supporting foreign policy of solidarity, like the Venezuelan foreign policys, instead of the imperialist foreign policy of first world countries like the USA, which supports oppressive regimes, in order to allow first world corporations to exploit Third World peoples and plunder the wealth of the Third World to enrich to the first world.
 

Locan S (209)
Saturday April 18, 2009, 7:09 am
Thank you Simon and I agree with everything you have said except that "no-one is "illegal"," thats nonsense. I look forward to discussing this with you as I value your opinion, but I've gotta run.
Looking forward, LSS
 

Locan S (209)
Saturday April 18, 2009, 12:47 pm
Upon further review, I must also take exception to your comment that I am here illegally. I was born here. The same as anchor-babies who's parents are subsidized by my taxes (how insane is that?) If they are here legally, then so am I, with the exception that my parents and grandparents were also born here.

I'm not as hard-lined as you with regards to the percentage needed to be considered Native and as I am not, I'll leave that up to them. I do know treaties were broken (and much worse,) and they deserve at the very least FULL reparations if it is even possible to quantify that. One thing I do know about legal proceedings is that no matter the calculation for damages, one is ever made whole. If my Native brothers and sisters want me to leave, I'll do my best to find a solution but unlike illegals, I've nowhere to go back to. As I said, I was born here. First I would try to work for them or with them to make a better future for their children but only if my help was allowed or even wanted.

You are correct when you state "Most immigrants who are not legally there by U.S. law are Native American - e.g. Indigenous American people from Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala.... " I would only add Central or South to your statement. (Is America a native name?) Either way not as far north as Texas and last I checked, they have no intention of giving it back. Not every illegal has the luxury of only needing to cross a river or hop a fence (some places don't even provide that much of an obstacle.) There are thousands if not millions of prospective citizens from every other country that respects the law and "play by the rules." Isn't it racist to have a different set of laws for Hispanics?

"The borders were set up by the white invaders, and have no legitimacy." When I see one of them, I'll kick his ass for you, but those guys have been dead for quite some time. Exactly how far back do you want to take this? What borders are legit for you? Pre-Alexander the Great? Attila the Hun? Am I self-hating because my Irish ancestors were occupied by my English ancestors? Should I disown my Italian heritage because of possible Mafia connections? I've seen your picture and you don't look Aboriginal to me, (though I confess, I'm no expert!) I think your in the same boat as me and therefore can empathize.

I can't do anything about atrocities committed "in my name" when I was a child or before I was born. Yes I was voting age throughout the 1980's and yes I did vote, but my candidates rarely won. I have always been outspoken for true justice to be served for those atrocities in Central America that very few Americans really know of. Because they got off scott-free it is even more imperative that we charge Bush/Cheney and their entire Neocon Cabal with war crimes. This has got to stop!

What little gas I do buy is Citgo gas. My father retired from Standard Oil and has worked in about every refinery on this planet so I do understand whose oil I'm buying. You may or may not know that any gas station owner can buy any gas they want from anywhere they want. I can only make my very limited purchases in good faith.

I'm very encouraged by the leadership emerging from South and Central America but even more impressed with the determination of the people. I look to them as an example for us if what we want is real change. Hopefully you know by now where I stand with regards to my country's support for the apartheid state of Israel.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Sunday April 19, 2009, 3:04 am
Locan,
you wrote:

"Thank you Simon and I agree with everything you have said except that "no-one is "illegal"," thats nonsense. I look forward to discussing this with you as I value your opinion, but I've gotta run.
Looking forward, LSS"

Hmmm.... acts can be illegal, but a PERSON cannot be illegal - unless you adopt a dehumanising ideology, such as nazism. According to the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and according to international law, NO-ONE is "illegal". Case closed.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Sunday April 19, 2009, 4:12 am
Hi Locan. You also wrote:

"Upon further review, I must also take exception to your comment that I am here illegally. I was born here."

So? If you are not Native American, then you are part of the invasion. According to the laws of the first nations, you are there illegally, as the result of invasion, and then broken treaties on top of that.

"The same as anchor-babies who's parents are subsidized by my taxes (how insane is that?)"

If what you say is true, then (a), they are human beings just like everyone else, so I ask that you don't use scapegoating words such as "anchor babies."

(b) It is sane to care for people. It is insane to turn people into unpeople and deny their human rights.

"If they are here legally, then so am I, with the exception that my parents and grandparents were also born here."

NO, they are mainly Native American, and unless you are, too, then they are in their own land, and you are part of the invasion.

On the other hand, if you admit that other immigrants who are in the USA against the law of the U.S. invasion nation, have the same right to be there as you, then at least you are not applying a double standard, and we might achieve some justice here.

"I'm not as hard-lined as you with regards to the percentage needed to be considered Native and as I am not, I'll leave that up to them."

Huh? You brought up laws. (1) If you want laws, then the only legit laws are the laws of the first nations, that were there BEFORE the European invasion - the ILLEGAL INVASION that broke the original laws.

Or, (2) if you want to talk about human rights instead, then give back the land, make a real treaty with the first nations, and stop the double standard about immigrants to North America.

"I do know treaties were broken (and much worse,) and they deserve at the very least FULL reparations if it is even possible to quantify that. One thing I do know about legal proceedings is that no matter the calculation for damages, one is ever made whole."

What are you talking about? NONE of that land in the Americas was European. It was all invaded. If we are to apply any property laws and national laws, then it ALL belongs to the Native American people.

Or, if you prefer human rights, then the Indigenous people all over the continent have the right to cross the artificial white-made borders, and you have no mre right to b there than any other immigrants.

Or, if you prefer might is right, then you invite the next group of people to invade, just as the Europeans invaded, to make new laws, new property laws, new borders, a new nation - with Islamic Sharia law, perhaps? :P

"If my Native brothers and sisters want me to leave, I'll do my best to find a solution but unlike illegals, I've nowhere to go back to."

No-ONE is "illegal". Furthermore, immigrants to the USA generally have a terrible life because of decades of U.S. foreign policy. For many years, the USA has supported oligarchical rule over the poor masses in dozens of Third World countries, and the USA has plundered those countries, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars net, each year.

Thet gives people from the Third World the right to flee the conditions that the USA has supported in those countries, and gives people from the Third World to enjoy the wealth that Third World people have produced, which the USA has accumulated inside the USA.

"As I said, I was born here."

So?

"First I would try to work for them or with them to make a better future for their children but only if my help was allowed or even wanted."

Who is "they"?

"You are correct when you state "Most immigrants who are not legally there by U.S. law are Native American - e.g. Indigenous American people from Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala.... " I would only add Central or South to your statement. (Is America a native name?)"

Huh? Of course it isn't - it comes from Amerigo Vespucci (the first person from Europe to declare America [from what isnow called "Alaska" and "Canada" in the north down to "Tierra Del Fuego" in the south] as a new continent), of course! But that is irrelevant, because America is the word now used to refer to the continent.

"Either way not as far north as Texas and last I checked, they have no intention of giving it back."

Either way what is not as far north as Texas??? Who has no intention of giving what back??? I don't know what you are talking about. Please communicate clearly, Locan.

"Not every illegal""

NO-ONE is illegal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"has the luxury of only needing to cross a river or hop a fence (some places don't even provide that much of an obstacle.) There are thousands if not millions of prospective citizens from every other country that respects the law and "play by the rules." Isn't it racist to have a different set of laws for Hispanics?"

The U.S. regime has no right to determine immigration, because the U.S. regime is the result of an invasion, which gives it no legitimate basis. It is based on the idea of "might makes right", against the laws of the first nations, which makes it perfectly legitimate for people to disobey U.S. "laws".

As for the people who you call "Hispanics"... I am talking about the Native Americans, the Indigenous people who were on the continent before the Europeans began their genocidal invasion in 1492. If anyone has more right ove anyone else to be on that land, then it is them. If you don't want racism, then don't practice it with your U.S. immigration laws, which are clearly racist and discriminatory against poor people (who are mainly non-white), and which are fundamentally racist in their privileging of people who were born north of the white people's border (i.e. mainly English-speaking white people) above those who were born south of the white people's border or in other continents (mainly non-English speaking people who are not white).

""The borders were set up by the white invaders, and have no legitimacy." When I see one of them, I'll kick his ass for you, but those guys have been dead for quite some time. Exactly how far back do you want to take this? What borders are legit for you? Pre-Alexander the Great? Attila the Hun? Am I self-hating because my Irish ancestors were occupied by my English ancestors? Should I disown my Italian heritage because of possible Mafia connections?""

The USA is a colony. White people there are part of the invading "civilisation". Looking at the big picture, all white people who were not explicitly welcomed by the Native Americans are part of the invasion and can be termed "invaders".

"I've seen your picture and you don't look Aboriginal to me, (though I confess, I'm no expert!) I think your in the same boat as me and therefore can empathize."

Huh? I WELCOME immigrants. I have no double standards about it. If I have a right to be here, then so do other immigrants, regardless of what the Australian colonial government says.

But I am willing to leave here, too, if Indigenous people want me to and if I can get citizenship somewhere else.

Actually, I think you'll find that most Indigenous Australians welcome me here because I campaign with them for their land rights and other Indigenous rights (which are simply human rights), and because I participate in the campaign to get a Treaty, and I even campaign with the most radical minority of Indigenous people who are campaigning for Aboriginal Sovereignty.

"I can't do anything about atrocities committed "in my name" when I was a child or before I was born."

Yes you can. You can campaign for reparations for Native Americans and for the billions of people in the Third World who have suffered and continue to suffer from U.S. domestic policy and foreign policy. I do that, and I am not even a citizen of the USA! :P It is all the more easy for you, because you are a citizen there!

"Yes I was voting age throughout the 1980's and yes I did vote, but my candidates rarely won. I have always been outspoken for true justice to be served for those atrocities in Central America that very few Americans really know of."

True justice includes the right for people to flee U.S. imperialism and to enjoy relative safety from U.S. imperialism by immigrating into the USA to enjoy the prosperity that they themselves have produced (which U.S. imperialism has stolen from them), and having that immigration recognised as legitimate.

"Because they got off scott-free it is even more imperative that we charge Bush/Cheney and their entire Neocon Cabal with war crimes. This has got to stop!"

I agree about charging those war criminals, and ending U.S. imperialism. But remember, imperialism relies on preventing the movement of people away from U.S. imperialist oppression, extreme exploitation and extreme impoverishment into the USA.

"What little gas I do buy is Citgo gas. My father retired from Standard Oil and has worked in about every refinery on this planet so I do understand whose oil I'm buying. You may or may not know that any gas station owner can buy any gas they want from anywhere they want. I can only make my very limited purchases in good faith."

Ok....

"I'm very encouraged by the leadership emerging from South and Central America but even more impressed with the determination of the people. I look to them as an example for us if what we want is real change. Hopefully you know by now where I stand with regards to my country's support for the apartheid state of Israel."

Please show compassion for people who are less privileged than yourself and who therefore immigrate into the USA illegally. : )
 
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