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Christopher Columbus Driven By Ill Winds

Society & Culture  (tags: War & Peace, U.S., Canada, Indigenous, Human Rights, Central America, Caribbean, Cuba )

- 1679 days ago -
He believed that God had chosen him specifically to see Christianity victorious "throughout the universe." And he would follow His command to convert or destroy Moslems, Jews and other non-believers.


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Slava R (1311)
Saturday October 11, 2014, 2:59 pm
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law."
Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814


Bryan S (105)
Sunday October 12, 2014, 11:10 am
Great article, Judy. Columbus was a conqueror and a slave trader -- the type we are told to villify if they are of a different civilization. I didn't know that religious fanatacism played such a big part in his ambitions. Again, the type we're told to villify and despise if they are not from the "right" religion.

Judy C (91)
Sunday October 12, 2014, 2:41 pm
Thanks Slava and Bryan. This article did have some information I didn't know about Columbus. Religion can be used to justify such treachery, and I didn't know about Columbus' fanaticism in this regard, either, Bryan.

SuSanne P (193)
Sunday October 12, 2014, 3:15 pm
Thank you Judy and Dandi for the link. Being forwarded before tomorrow!

Sheryl G (359)
Sunday October 12, 2014, 3:35 pm
Indeed, just when you thought you had all the reasons to rid oneself of this so called "holiday" there is more. The story BEFORE the story.

That murder, theft, exploitation, intolerance, greed, religious extremism was all there and done upon so many people and had provided funds to go and murder, exploit, steal, plunder, so on and so forth some more poor unfortunate people is just so dark and sickening.

Christopher Columbus found Caribbean people “tractable, peaceable” and wrote King Ferdinand, “there is not in the world a better nation” -- he concluded they must be “made to work . . . and adopt our ways.”

Not in the world a better instead of copying them we'll destroy them instead.

That the fact it is recognized what he was doing takes away any of the people who still want to excuse this as "well people didn't know what they were really doing back then"........yes they did. People always know that, it is do they choose not to do it. So in his own writing he knew, he didn't care, he chose to go on anyways. Is a same thinking as extremist have today. That in their minds, no matter who must suffer to reach their goal and many times it is religious, then so be it.

The article mentions Chief Hatuey, but what it did not mention is this. Chief Hatuey was tied to a stake to be burned alive. Before he was burned, a priest asked him if he would accept Jesus and go to heaven.

Las Casas, Priest with Christopher Columbus, recalled the reaction of the chief: thinking a little, Chief Hatuey asked the religious man if Spaniards went to heaven. The religious man answered yes... The Chief then said without further thought that he did not want to go there but to hell so as not to be where they were and where he would not see such cruel people.


Judy C (91)
Sunday October 12, 2014, 8:19 pm
Thank you for adding that information, Dandelion. Chief Hatuey's words are a powerful testament to the horrors that Columbus perpetrated on the Indigenous People. So much evil has been, and continues to be done in this world behind a pious religious smokescreen. Every Columbus Day people celebrate this charade.

Arild Warud (174)
Monday October 13, 2014, 2:23 am
Thanks Judy.

Angelika R (143)
Monday October 13, 2014, 4:00 am
Thx Judy! It is more than obvious that and why THIS TRUTH will NEVER EVER enter American textbooks.. it might well take another 100 years or more for this lousy holiday to be scrapped from your calendars.

John Pierce (228)
Monday October 13, 2014, 5:06 am
Thanks Judy.

Kathleen M (208)
Monday October 13, 2014, 7:26 am
Noted. Thanks for posting, Judy, and SuSanne for the forward. Didn't know the extent to which religious fanaticism powered CC's engine of death and destruction. Thanks for adding that information, Dandelion. "Lousy holiday," indeed.

divergent r (309)
Monday October 13, 2014, 8:54 am
just look at the names of his first landfalls in the caribbean,all named for saints
while all the indigenous people who were there first have become extinct
the arawak, carib, cahuenga,taino Indians,to name just a few

Sheila D (194)
Monday October 13, 2014, 12:39 pm
For some reason we have to celebrate a man who didn't even discover America, the United States, even North America...Our country isn't even named after Columbus and still we celebrate him. Think I'l email my state Representative about renaming Columbus Day, especially since MN has several reservations. Would be very appropriate.

The only reason I celebrated October 12th, it was my father's birthday. Thanks Judy.

Evelyn Z (300)
Monday October 13, 2014, 1:18 pm
Thanks Judy, and SuSanne for fwd.
WOW = another horrible history lesson!!

Joanne Dixon (37)
Monday October 13, 2014, 2:15 pm
The one thing that Chief Haluey got wrong was that he wasn't a Spaniard. He was just working for Spaniards, Ferdinand and Isabella. Probably his crew was Spanish, so maybe that's what the chief was thinking of. But Columbus was an Italian from Genoa.

Birgit W (160)
Monday October 13, 2014, 2:29 pm
Thanks Judy.

Judy C (91)
Monday October 13, 2014, 3:35 pm
Thanks to everyone who read this, and for your comments.

Judy C (91)
Monday October 13, 2014, 3:37 pm
Also. thanks to those who forwarded this important story.

cynthia l (207)
Monday October 13, 2014, 4:22 pm
thx Columbus was despicable and disturbed. I wish the world would stop recognizing him

Joy McRonald (168)
Monday October 13, 2014, 6:26 pm
Thanks for this.. noted.

Connie O (45)
Monday October 13, 2014, 6:55 pm
thank you .... I never knew a lot about Columbus.

John B (185)
Tuesday October 14, 2014, 2:23 am
Thanks SuSanne for the heads up and to you Judy for pod=sting the link to the excellent article by Mr. Katz.
Read and noted.

Mitchell D (82)
Friday October 17, 2014, 3:52 pm
I know it's been a while, but i want to put in a word for Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States," for more about the real Columbus; an excellent read, all the way through.

Past Member (0)
Saturday October 18, 2014, 1:37 am
One more informative article :)
Thank you Judy :)
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