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Why We Protest: It's hard to believe that a woman could be convicted over what she maintains was a home stillbirth.


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Teresa W (782)
Friday May 1, 2015, 1:17 pm
It won't accept my Polish postcode.

JL A (281)
Friday May 1, 2015, 7:20 pm
signed via email, noted; thanks for posting Judy

Past Member (0)
Friday May 1, 2015, 8:28 pm
Signed-thx Judy

Sheryl G (359)
Friday May 1, 2015, 9:15 pm
Thanks for keeping this out there.....someone had already posted on C2 and I had signed then. This is what ones Country does when they've walked too far down the road of fascism. Poor woman.

Animae C (508)
Saturday May 2, 2015, 5:12 am
i have no idea what this means........

Form submission limit reached.

Mike M (8)
Saturday May 2, 2015, 5:42 pm

Past Member (0)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 12:49 am
They ask for the country, and they don't accept my signature

Past Member (0)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 12:55 am
Noted and signed
Thank you

Jonathan Harper (0)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 3:37 am

Ben O (129)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 5:53 am
Couldn't sign, don't know why...sorry!

Dogan Ozkan (2)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 6:48 am
noted and signed

David Thieke (6)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 7:34 am
Signed and noted. Thanks Judy !

Liv B (0)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 9:51 am
Done, thanks Judy

John H (9)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 12:39 pm
I seem to be unable to sign the petition. The visit site link does not do anything.

donald Baumgartner (6)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 12:41 pm
Gladly Signed!!!!

Janet R (38)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 1:03 pm
Signed, thanks.

Gloria H (88)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 2:21 pm
couldn't sign either. Was the petition already submitted? Hasn't this woman suffered enough? Stupid busy bodies can leave well enough alone! Why not demand autopsies for every single death that occurs? Why not poke into suicides and find someone to punish? (sarcasm). Someone had an axe to grind against this woman. Why not find out WHO that was and why they are persecuting her?

Lois Jordan (63)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 2:43 pm
Previously signed. Noted. Thank you, Judy.

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 4:14 pm
This petition was posted on the comment thread of a submission of Dandelion's a while ago, so I've already signed. But if it brings in more signatures -- so much the better! It's a terrible case of a law being twisted: she was prosecuted under a law meant to protect pregnant women (& their fetuses) from attacks & harm coming from third persons, not the pregnant woman herself. These crazy, fanatical, religious nuts have misused the law & got away with it! They've ruined this woman's life because they THINK she was CONSIDERING abortion. But despite the telephone conversations law enforcement found she'd had with a friend asking about buying drugs online to cause an abortion, NO TRACES of those (known) drugs were found in her system! Which means she didn't take them....which means she DIDN'T take drugs to trigger an abortion. She's been convicted for having THOUGHT of doing it, at one moment. It's simply incredible.

Judy C (91)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 4:52 pm
Thanks everyone. Of course there are other countries who prosecute and imprison women who have had miscarriages or stillbirths. One wouldn't expect to find this in the U.S.!

I don't know why the petition isn't working properly for some people. That's unfortunate. It is presented in two other languages, so I would think foreign postcodes would be accepted.

Bonnie Lynn M (1)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 8:58 pm
I think it says I've already signed. I'm trying to translate. Thank you

Cheryl Aaron (18)
Sunday May 3, 2015, 9:43 pm
Thanks, Judy...peace.

Dori C (17)
Monday May 4, 2015, 7:30 am

Past Member (0)
Monday May 4, 2015, 10:17 am
I try 00000 and 54640 and still nothing.
Equality now!!! :)

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Tuesday May 5, 2015, 3:00 am
Try 36104 - that's for Montgomery, Alabama. Or 11205-4002 for a neighborhood in Brooklyn, NY; 10011 for Chelsea, NY

Emma S (239)
Wednesday May 6, 2015, 11:02 am
I keep getting the message: ↑Form submission limit reached.

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Thursday May 7, 2015, 2:44 pm
This is the consequence of the careful work carried out in US homes by the American Christian Taliban ever since the rise of the home schooling movement. I've done some research & that's EXACTLY where it's at! Please read:

I wanted to get to the root of this situation, by which I mean the horrendous situation of Purvi Patel. I suddenly realized that the precise name that this type of ideology, argument, legislation, prosecution, etc. goes under is 'fetus personhood.' This is the underlying idea that allows prosecutors to arrest pregnant women and charge them with everything from ‘feticide’ to ‘failure to assist a person in danger’ or ‘neglect of a dependent.’

We have much to fear from the 'personhood' movements. We have to be alert to them & combative! I still receive updates & petitions about the corporate personhood that was established with the 'Citizens United' case, but somehow 'fetus personhood' skipped my attention. Somehow the many advocacy groups & news sources that I often visit or subscribe to haven't put me face to face with the consequences of legislation passed or twisted to confer personhood on the embryo... that is until now.

Of course, I knew that 'fetus personhood' was being used to cut back & severely restrict ‘Roe v. Wade’ and US women’s legal right to choose abortion. But I didn't realize that there were other issues: " anti-choice and “pro-life” measures are being used to do more than limit access to abortion; they are providing the basis for arresting women, locking them up, and forcing them to submit to medical interventions, including surgery," as stated by Lynn Paltrow, lawyer and Founder/Executive Director of National Advocates for Pregnant Women ("NAPW"), whom we are hearing quite a lot from on this thread & in all the articles about Purvi Patel, & in almost every article defending women's rights to their own personhood over and above that of her fetus.

I wanted to find out how 'fetus personhood' started & how long this hateful ideology has been spreading. I found out MORE than I'd bargained for when a C2NN search connected me to an excellent Oct, 2014 post of Carrie's, when she posted an important, thorough & frightening ProPublica article entitled, "This Alabama Judge Has Figured Out How to Dismantle Roe V. Wade"

First off, I got my explanation of how ‘fetus personhood’ came into being: “... the so-called personhood movement, which has its roots in a loophole in Roe v. Wade. While that 1973 ruling was creating a broad new right to abortion grounded in a constitutionally protected right to privacy, an often-overlooked passage left an opening for those who would seek its undoing. During oral arguments, the justices had asked Roe’s lawyer what would happen if a fetus were held to be a person under the Constitution. “I would have a very difficult case,” she had replied. In his majority opinion, Justice Harry Blackmun noted that the Supreme Court could find no basis for such status, before adding, “If this suggestion of personhood is established, [Roe’s] case, of course, collapses, for the fetus’ right to life would then be guaranteed.””

Next, I got an unusual & worrying view of how the Christian Right or Christian fundamentalists have been carrying out their grassroots organizing, spreading their ideology, and working on indoctrinating the population at large, while, at the same time, moving towards greater influence & power, and grooming future ‘Christian’ leaders for a calculated takeover of US governments at every level --state, local and federal-- via a look at a 2005 conference held at THE WITHERSPOON SCHOOL of Law and Public Policy in Virginia’s Blue Ridge Mountains. Rather than turn out lawyers, “Witherspoon staged [& still stages] seminars and lectures offering lessons in what it summarized as “the comprehensive biblical foundation for our common law and constitutional government.” Its target audience was [& still is] homeschooled young men. The school itself was [& still is] a project of Vision Forum, a Texas-based ministry whose founder was also a leader in the Christian Patriarchy movement, which preaches, among other things,” women’s total submission to male authority*, be it that of fathers, husbands or grown sons.

Now, there are very important connections here between the takeover of US institutions by the Christian fundamentalists, the rise of faith-based ‘conscience’ laws, the Christian Patriarchy movement (aka Quiverfull, but not all agree they’re the same) and home schooling. “The Christian Patriarchy and Quiverfull movements were born in the home school movement in the 1980s and have since grown by leaps and bounds.” “The leadership of the Christian homeschooling movement came to be dominated by people with Quiverfull and Christian patriarchy beliefs. They were drawn to homeschooling as a way to shelter their children from secular influences.”

In a 2009 interview with author Kathryn Joyce on TruthOut’s BuzzFlash about her book, Quiverfull: Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement, BuzzFlash writes “When Americans think of patriarchal societies, female submission, or extreme gender inequality based on religious teachings, visions of Muslim women in burkas or Hindus in poorly arranged marriages may come to mind. The reality, though, is that a growing number of American Christian fundamentalists also have rejected feminism and egalitarianism, embracing instead male dominance and what they call the "Quiverfull" belief system. Picture the Massachusetts Bay Colonies before Hester Prynne's day. The women in such communities live within a stringently enforced doctrine of wifely submission and male "headship," including a selfless acceptance of possibly constant pregnancies and as many children under foot as God might bring. They reject not only "reproductive rights" of any kind, but also higher education and workforce participation for women.”

Elsewhere, however, I read that, although they both grew out of the home school movement, Quiverfull and Christian Patriarchy are not the same thing: “Christian Patriarchy teaches that families must follow a strict patriarchal order and Quiverfull teaches that families must raise up numerous children as foot soldiers to build Christ’s kingdom on earth. While technically distinct, these two movements nevertheless almost always go hand in hand.”

Heather Doney and Rachel Coleman, co-founders of 'Homeschooling’s Invisible Children,' “a site that documents abuse under the cover of homeschooling,” were “both eldest daughters of families raised in the Quiverfull movement, where adherents reject birth control and have ‘as many children as God gives you.’ ” They share their views and knowledge, both impirical & academic, in a March 5, 2014 interview,Talking to Heather Doney and Rachel Coleman About Child Abuse, the Quiverfull Movement and Homeschooling Policy Reform. Alongside their academic research, they advocate for homeschooling reform & responsible home education practices, while providing public policy guidance through research, all via a new organization, the Coalition for Responsible Home Education, which they recently launched.

We have much to fear from these groups who produce strongly indoctrinated young people, brought up in the isolation of home schooling, without any contact with a pluralistic society, only the dogmatic ideology ingrained at home, who are then maneuvered and ‘groomed’ to enter public service (school boards? local & state governments? criminal justice?- as judges & prosecutors? ) through such institutions as the Witherspoon School. The obvious objective is to get them into positions of power, in which they will be able to influence policy, legislation and the law… And force their ideology down our throats, as in the cases of pregnant women whose civil rights have been flouted!

We are seeing their influence in states where ‘fetal personhood’ laws are enacted or existing legislation is twisted to criminalize pregnant women. Medical personnel act as spies or Big Brother(s) to denounce pregnant women to law enforcement, which allows law enforcement to come into hospitals & take control of the women, either carting them off to prison or forcing them to submit to unwanted medical or surgical procedures, such as cesareans. Such are the effects of the current reduction of pregnant women’s constitutional rights in favor of ‘those’ of the fetus.

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Thursday May 7, 2015, 2:49 pm

As early as January 2013, women’s rights advocates were postulating a shift in the legal ‘perception’ & status of pregnant women and their constitutional rights, as in The Rise of “Jane Crow” Laws Threaten Personhood for Women @ : (extract)

“When women become pregnant, do they lose their constitutional rights? A study ( ‘Executive Summary’here) published today in the Journal of Health Politics, Policy and Law shows that anti-abortion laws in many states are being used to justify the arrest and detention of pregnant women, and to force them to undergo unwanted medical interventions, including surgery. Beyond the threat to Roe v. Wade and US women’s legal right to choose abortion, the study argues, these laws are creating a systemic treatment of pregnant women as a separate class of people whose rights are denied in favor of the perceived rights of the fetus.

“Arrests of and Forced Interventions on Pregnant Women in the United States, 1973-2005: Implications for Women’s Legal Status and Public Health” (pdf) by Lynn Paltrow, Executive Director of National Advocates for Pregnant Women and Jeanne Flavin, Professor of Sociology, Fordham University, identifies 413 cases showing pregnancy was a necessary condition for detention, and that legal authority was justified in the name of protecting a fetus and by abridging or denying the constitutional rights of the pregnant women involved.
While many of the cases are related to women taking drugs while pregnant, there is a great variety in the circumstances under which pregnant women were detained, and, in every case, the reason given for detention was fetal safety. For instance, a woman in Ohio was jailed to keep her from having an abortion. A pregnant woman in Florida, whose previous pregnancy had ended in Caesarian section, wanted to deliver vaginally. Her doctors believed so strongly that by refusing Caesarian she was endangering her unborn child’s life they sought a court order to force her to have the procedure. The woman was not represented by counsel. When she later sued the state, federal district court ruled that the state’s interest in protecting the fetus overruled the woman’s First, Fourth and Fourteenth Amendment rights. This women had three more children, all delivered vaginally. According to the study, the detentions were predominantly of low-income women, 59% were women of color.

In case after case cited, pregnant women were charged with abuse, neglect, or endangerment of the fetus, despite the fact that no laws exist which separate a fetus legally from treatment of the mother. In many cases, feticide laws were cited in charges against the women, though this was never the intent of the laws. …/… .../...
…/… .../... ”

ABSTRACT of “Arrests of and Forced Interventions on Pregnant Women in the United States, 1973-2005:
Implications for Women’s Legal Status and Public Health”

by Lynn Paltrow, Executive Director of National Advocates for Pregnant Women, and Jeanne Flavin, Professor of Sociology, Fordham University:

“In November 2011, the citizens of Mississippi voted down Proposition 26, a “personhood” measure that sought to establish separate constitutional rights for fertilized eggs, embryos, and fetuses. This proposition raised the question of whether such measures could be used as the basis for depriving pregnant women of their liberty through arrests or forced medical interventions. Over the past four decades, descriptions of selected subsets of arrests and forced interventions on pregnant women have been published. Such cases, however, have never been systematically identified and documented, nor has the basis for their deprivations of liberty been comprehensively examined. In this article we report on 413 cases from 1973 to 2005 in which a woman’s pregnancy was a necessary factor leading to attempted and actual deprivations of a woman’s physical liberty.

First, we describe key characteristics of the women and the cases, including socioeconomic status and race. Second, we investigate the legal claims made to justify the arrests, detentions, and forced interventions. Third, we explore the role played by health care providers. We conclude by discussing the implications of our findings and the likely impact of personhood measures on pregnant women’s liberty and on maternal, fetal, and child health.”

Recommended on the site of the National Advocates for Pregnant Women (NAPW): “Writer and activist, Victoria Law's recent piece (Thursday April 23, 2015 @Truth-Out), "Your Pregnancy May Subject You to Even More Law Enforcement Violence" is a must read that walks through many of NAPW's cases and quotes Director of Legal Advocacy Sara Ainsworth and Staff Attorney Kylee Sunderlin.”

NAPW Commentaries Opposing the Prosecution & Sentencing of Purvi Patel:

1) “How Indiana Is Making It Possible To Jail Women For Having Abortions,” Lynn Paltrow, Public Eye Magazine

2) “It Is All Too Easy for Pregnant Women To Be Put on Trial in the United States,” Farah Diaz-Tello and Laura Huss, RH Reality Check

Giana Peranio Paz (398)
Sunday May 10, 2015, 10:21 pm
Noted and signed, thanks Judy.

Judy C (91)
Monday May 11, 2015, 12:22 am
Thanks for all the information and the links, Lucy. Those people you're talking about are fascists, and truly dangerous. No woman should lose her Constitutional rights because of being pregnant. This type of ideology completely dis-empowers women. Hats off to people like Heather Doney and Rachel Coleman, who can inform people, and try to hopefully undo some of the damage of being raised in these evil cult-like conditions.

Thanks to all who signed, and I'm sorry that the petition malfunctioned for a couple of you.

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Monday May 11, 2015, 9:10 am
You know, Judy, I'd never even heard of Quiverfull and Christian Patriarchy! That article that Carrie posted turned into a gold mine of info to follow up on. I knew there was a mentality behind home schooling that didn't appeal to me, but I didn't know that the home school movement had been taken over by such fanatical, extremist groups! Dandelion is right when she calls them 'American Christian Taliban'!

And with the calculation behind THE WITHERSPOON SCHOOL of Law and Public Policy singling out 'homeschooled young men', it really starts to read like a conspiracy to take over US institutions. They're plotting & calculating and grooming those 'young men' (no women, right?) for the gradual take over.

Some day, when I have more time, it would be interesting to find out how many state senators or judges have actually come out of this network. Are any of them in the US Congress? Do we know of any US Senators or Reps who are followers of Quiverfull and Christian Patriarchy?

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Sunday September 4, 2016, 8:13 am

DN! Headlines for Friday, September 02, 2016 - "Indiana: Purvi Patel Freed After Feticide Conviction Was Overturned" :

"In Indiana, Purvi Patel, who was sentenced to 20 years in prison for what she says was a miscarriage, has been freed. In 2015, Patel was convicted of feticide, becoming the first person in U.S. history sentenced to prison for what the state said was an attempt to end her own pregnancy. Her conviction sparked widespread outrage. In July, her conviction was overturned. She WALKED FREE from an Indianapolis prison on Thursday."

Hooray, hooray!
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