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Fumes From Iowa Hog-Manure Pit Kill Father and Son


Health & Wellness  (tags: deaths, hog farm, manure pits, health hazard )

Judy
- 1420 days ago - motherjones.com
An eerily similar father-son tragedy occurred in Wisconsin earlier in July.



   

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Judy C (91)
Sunday August 2, 2015, 2:10 pm
These hog farms are horrific at so many levels!
 

Anteater Ants (122)
Sunday August 2, 2015, 2:11 pm
What a stinky death!
 

JL A (281)
Sunday August 2, 2015, 2:33 pm
Sounds like time for new OSHA safety regulations for such farms. Thanks Judy
 

Animae C (509)
Sunday August 2, 2015, 5:37 pm
If anyone hasn't watched this vid, please do....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayGJ1YSfDXs
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday August 2, 2015, 10:57 pm
God i can't begin to imagine just how much those poor pigs are suffering. Brutal. thx Judy
 

Judy C (91)
Sunday August 2, 2015, 11:15 pm
Thanks everyone, and thanks for the video link, AniMae. This is even worse than I thought it was. This just HAS to be stopped!
 

Shelli S (374)
Monday August 3, 2015, 6:58 am
Disgusting, ruined any thought of eating breakfast..Such a revolting place..Nothing good about these factory farms or dying because of them..nothing!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday August 4, 2015, 6:08 am
No more tragedies
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday August 4, 2015, 7:15 am
I'M SORRY FOR THEIR DEATHS BUT MORE SORRY FOR THE ANIMALS THAT ARE PENNED THEIR AGAINST THEIR WILL AND SUFFER DAILY. THIS FAMILY COULD HAVE MOVED AT ANY TIME, THOSE POOR PIGGY'S HAVE NO CHOICE BUT SUFFER WHILE ALIVE , ONLY TO BE SLAUGHTERED IN THE END!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday August 4, 2015, 11:45 am
Petition to "Save the Bees" Signed!! Thank you!
 

Sheryl G (359)
Tuesday August 4, 2015, 1:09 pm
I feel more sorry for the animals? Can we not feel equally sorry for both? I've got a big heart, I can include both.

People can't just up and move away, it takes money to do that. Sometimes this is the only job available in an area so one takes what they can to keep a roof over their head. Life isn't so cut and dry. People however can stop these disgusting Factory Farms.

Caring doesn't mean one over the other or one or the other; we can be caring for both humans and animals at the same time. I thought you were a 30+ year Biblical Scholar?

We need more people working for OSHA just like JL A mentions, we need Unions in all work places, and we need to have more smaller farms where the pigs can have better lives while they wait to feed people. I know some will say go vegetarian, and I get that, but many people will never do that nor can some tolerate that type of diet. So if people are going to eat meat, then let these animals be raised in a better environment.

Here Is How We End Factory Farms Make it Possible
 

Birgit W (160)
Tuesday August 4, 2015, 1:29 pm
Respect all creatures on our planet. Thank you.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday August 4, 2015, 2:12 pm
Even more sorry for the pigs, who have no choice in the "matter". Pigs are actually clean if given the opportunity, the option. Thanks Judy.
 

Kate Kenner (215)
Tuesday August 4, 2015, 2:18 pm
Although it is certainly an unpleasant way to die I can fee little for those who contribute to the suffering of animals. They were just workers and I guess they needed the money but you couldn't pay me enough to work in what is living hell for pigs. My sympathies go to the pigs as well. They have no choice but to exist there until they are killed.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Tuesday August 4, 2015, 2:52 pm
Ouch....we have some hard C2 members here. Can't you feel compassion for both. Is true, I wouldn't work there but some people may have little choice.

Work to close down these factory farms, or improve conditions, whatever, in the meantime I'm really heartsick that other human beings have so little compassion to other human beings.

What has happened to the caring in Care2? Selective caring?
 

Sheryl G (359)
Tuesday August 4, 2015, 3:13 pm
Again, most people who work on factory farms tend to be the most vulnerable, lack an education, and many times are undocumented workers. The ones that you should place your disdain upon is the 1% and the fearless leaders in DC who have allowed this to happen through the unscrupulous Trade Deals that has caused these conditions to begin with.

Where were you when the small Family Farms were being taken over? Anyone stand up against it? Anyone here protested NAFTA?

These workers STARVE if they don't work someplace. Thank YOUR lucky stars that YOU have never been in such a place. I'm sure they'd like to work in a cleaner environment as well and not in the manure pits and a day to day place of watching these poor pigs be tormented.

So perhaps people should work to get the undocumented legal papers so they can speak up against these things, so they can Unionize and get better working conditions not only for themselves but the animals. And I certainly hope that those who feel so badly for the pigs don't eat any pork.

We can harden our hearts to the human beings but until you walk in their shoes you miss helping both the pigs and the humans.

Here is more information on what these workers endure. They have a HELL of life on earth right along with the pigs and then people can't even feel some empathy towards them. Remember, they have families too, they in fact work starvation wages under horrific conditions.

Grace Communications Foundation

Maybe some of the people who have more empathy for the animals can find the Grace for the humans that are caught between a rock and hard place.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday August 4, 2015, 3:39 pm
This is so out of balance. Thanks for sharing.
 

Jamie Clemons (282)
Tuesday August 4, 2015, 4:37 pm
they should be using that methane to generate electricity and burning all that waste off. They should have used proper safety procedures and ventilated it and used breathing gear.
 

Bryan S (105)
Tuesday August 4, 2015, 7:17 pm
These farms are hell, and i agree Judy that they are horrific on many levels. I guess at least these deaths might force some light in these dark cruel corners, though it has happened before and nothing has changed.

Sheryl, i agree that compassion should be given to the people who have to work in these horrible places. Though i do wish more of these workers would do more to expose (anonymously if need be) what goes on. My anger is more at the American public on the whole, which hasn't rejected this disgusting cruel practice. And that doesn't mean everyone needs to be vegetarian.
 

Jonathan Harper (0)
Wednesday August 5, 2015, 1:46 am
Noted
 

rita uljee (1)
Wednesday August 5, 2015, 3:19 am
tragic but not only for the workers think about the poor animals closed up like that?
 

Ken O (55)
Wednesday August 5, 2015, 3:49 am
I'm sorry but the first thought that entered my mind is "Karma's a bitch boys". Regardless of how many weep for the father and the son this certainly wouldn't have happened had the poor pigs been treated humanely.
 

Ruth C (87)
Wednesday August 5, 2015, 6:45 am
I agree with Ken!
 

Bryan S (105)
Wednesday August 5, 2015, 11:57 am
Ken, i think there might be some truth to that, but it would depend on if two people killed were in any position to make decisions about these horrible farming practices. What if, like so many people, they were basically trapped in the job they have? If they weren't in any position to make decisions, maybe they're still guilty of thinking it's all OK, but i don't think that warrants death.

Anyway, there's certainly more than one reason to end these damn operations.
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Wednesday August 5, 2015, 2:48 pm
I agree with Dandelion here completely.

Compassion with conscience is not having a scale or priority for one type of sentient creature or being. Compassion with conscience is having to endure and pity the suffering endure by all living sentient beings.

It also negates the emotive reaction of hoping someone or something dies a horrible death.
 

Judy C (91)
Thursday August 6, 2015, 11:21 am
I too agree with those who can feel compassion for all beings. I hope this horror story will call more attention to the inhumane practices of factory farming, in general. I hope this kind of publicity will help put an end to these farms.

In cultures where meat is eaten, there are plenty of examples of respectful treatment of animals. Everyone must make their own personal choices on whether or not to eat meat. Unfortunately, buying meat that is raised humanely is so costly that many can't afford it.
 

Judy C (91)
Thursday August 6, 2015, 11:57 am
Thank you for the links, AniMae and Dandelion. These are well worth checking out. Signed and took the pledge on Dandelion's first link. Dandelion's second link will help those who criticize the factory farm workers to understand how people end up doing these jobs. They work for low pay under horrible conditions, and it's safe to say that this work would not be anyone's career choice. I would condemn the actions of the owners of these hell holes. The less of their products we buy, the more they will be forced to change their practices.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday August 6, 2015, 6:58 pm
Glad to be a vegetarian, that's for sure.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Friday August 7, 2015, 8:04 am
rita uljee "tragic but not only for the workers think about the poor animals closed up like that?"

If you had read through the article it stated that the pigs are above the fumes, that there are fans blowing it away from them, else the pigs would of died too.

I'm still heartsick over this, I still have the vision of the Father trying to save his son's life, carrying him up on his back only to have the two of them fall back in just before he reaches the top.

Some woman has lost her son and her husband.

As if that wasn't bad enough the article also read - the second father and son in the Midwest to die of poisonous manure pit gases this month.

Not to mention the article I left not long ago of someone dying in a cow manure pit.

It really upsets me when people come on these human rights articles and threads and say I feel worse for the animals. I've yet to see an animal rights thread where others come on and say, well I feel sorry or even worse for the hunter who now must go to jail.....

It seems to be a trend lately, animal activist coming onto threads and saying I feel worse for the animals or the people deserve it.......as Bryan said, certainly the workers didn't deserve death. These are the poorest among us with limited rights and then when they die......as a fellow human being we can't even show some empathy to this?

I'm not the only picking up on this and feeling sick on this. It also makes me feel extremely uncomfortable that I read that "if I got my hands on them I'd gorged out their eyes or set them on fire like they did the animal". Wow, really? Does that then make you any better than the one who tortured the animal to go and torture a human. Is terrible vibes that are being placed out onto the threads. I'm extremely uncomfortable with it, as they say, two wrongs don't make a right.
 

donna m (97)
Thursday August 13, 2015, 12:30 am
noted
 

donna m (97)
Thursday August 13, 2015, 12:31 am
thanks for sharing
 

Kyle Ness (0)
Thursday August 13, 2015, 10:58 pm
One huge Q! Why were they near the lagoon???
 

Judy C (91)
Friday August 14, 2015, 12:13 am
Dandelion, I am sad and sometimes angry when I see those attitudes you talk about, too. Being hateful doesn't accomplish anything, and leads to more suffering.

Kyle, the article describes what happened when these men were doing maintenance type work:

These large, indoor facilities confine hogs above their own waste on a slatted floor—the waste falls through the slats and collects in a pit below. An incredibly putrid aroma—I've smelled it—shrouds these facilities. The air contains hydrogen sulfide, methane, ammonia, carbon dioxide, and volatile organic compounds. Hogs can live above these poison-gas cesspools because giant fans keep the air moving. But when something goes wrong beneath the slats, workers have to venture into places where there is no effective ventilation. And that's what happened on this Iowa hog farm, to heartbreaking effect.

The two were repairing a pump at a hog confinement when a piece of equipment they were using fell into the manure pit, Wempen [a relative] said. Austin Opheim went into the pit first to retrieve the equipment, and his father followed him after realizing his son had been overcome by gases, Wempen said. ... “(Gene) was carrying Austin on his back and bringing him up and he got almost to the top and he got overcome, and down they went,” she said.
 

Jim M (38)
Saturday August 15, 2015, 2:18 am
thank you
 

Jim M (38)
Saturday August 15, 2015, 2:18 am
noted
 

Melania P (123)
Wednesday September 9, 2015, 11:04 am
Poor animals, they suffer horribly; factory farms are one of the most disgusting things we've done to animals
 
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