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.Afghanistan's Soldiers Step Up Killings of Allied Forces


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Sheryl
- 2665 days ago - nytimes.com
American and other coalition forces in Afghanistan are being killed in increasing numbers by the very Afghan soldiers they fight alongside and train, in attacks motivated by deep-seated animosity.



   

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Sheryl G (359)
Saturday February 4, 2012, 1:00 pm
Please after reading this important story......

Sign the PETITION....
BRING OUR TROOPS HOME
If you know of any other Petitions on Afghanistan add them here.
 

Roger G (148)
Saturday February 4, 2012, 3:38 pm
noted, thanks !
 

Edwin M (346)
Saturday February 4, 2012, 4:10 pm
Noted and signed thanks Sheryl
 

Antonio Mendes (134)
Saturday February 4, 2012, 5:44 pm
Noted. I can't sign because I don't live in U.S.A., but I think that the wars aren't the solution and that we must stop it.

Thank you Dandelion!
 

Penelope Ryan (178)
Saturday February 4, 2012, 6:30 pm
ty Sheryl
 

Sheryl G (359)
Saturday February 4, 2012, 6:50 pm
You're welcomed Penny. Like what are we doing there?! We are training these Afghanistan soldiers so they can turn their guns on us and the other Countries that are there and kill us. Thats right, make sure you learn to aim well.

This is a sad story all the way around, we are making more enemies and we train them to kill us. Bring the troops home now. This is a very important story so I hope it will be read as I don't see enough anger in the American public to get us the hell out of there!
 

Karen H (23)
Saturday February 4, 2012, 9:10 pm
I'm confused---the petition says to bring the troops home by August 2010!! What good is signing a 2 yr. old petition?
 

TomCat S (125)
Saturday February 4, 2012, 9:21 pm
I'm confused too. The August 2010 date referred only to the troops in Iraq, not Afghanistan
 

Eddie O (95)
Saturday February 4, 2012, 9:26 pm
Thanks Sheryl for sending me this. I just signed it with much pleasure.
 

Susanne R (236)
Saturday February 4, 2012, 9:52 pm
I share Karen and TomCat's concerns but signed anyway. I located another petition that is accepting signatures. I'm going to attempt to link it here: Draw Down Afghanistan. Build Up America.

 

Susanne R (236)
Saturday February 4, 2012, 10:01 pm
If you access this petition, please click on the words, "Not Susanne? Please click here." This will clear the form fields and allow you to sign. Thank you!
 

Gary L (138)
Saturday February 4, 2012, 10:08 pm
we never should have invaded in the first place most of the 911 attackers were saudi I didn't see the idiot george tuff guy bush attacking them
 

Sheryl G (359)
Saturday February 4, 2012, 10:14 pm
The Petition I placed was for BOTH wars......it read.

I support the following:
•A successful resolution to the war conflict in Iraq and in Afghanistan.

We are still in Afghanistan.....obviously we are not out when the petition was asking, but it is still an active petition to remind......We are still NOT out of BOTH places.

This article isn't JUST about the petition.......this article is a real nightmare......please I hope it is being read.

Thanks Susanne for the other link.
 

Rose Becke (141)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 12:24 am
Thank you Dandelion very insightful
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 3:05 am
education is the key
life has value beyond measure
Peace and Love
 

cecily w (0)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 3:10 am
Our troops do not belong there. I remember thinking how futile the "Mission" (whatever it is!) was many years ago when the former U.S.S.R. had to pull out. Bring our troops home.
 

Arild Warud (174)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 3:12 am
The British fought there and the Soviets too and nothing changed.Bin Laden is dead so NATO should pack up and go home,Petition signed,thanks for the post Dandelion.
 

Jytte Nhanenge (64)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 4:33 am
This terribly distorted violence only shows that when you open up the box that settles issues by violence then you cannot anymore control it. Soldiers who learn to kill become killing machines. They get rid of those they hate, be they the "official" enemy or the "official" friend. It is exactly because we cannot control violence that traditional societies had ceremonies that could cleanse past hatred and wrongdoing, giving all a chance to start from scratch without shedding more unnecessary blood or wasting more young lives. WAR SETTLES NOTHING. There is no winner in a war, only losers the whole way around.
 

tammy B (52)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 4:51 am
It must be really demoralizing for our allied troops there to know that they trained the same people who are now killing and maiming them. I agree with Arild about that fact that our leaders (the allied leaders) have ignored the history of war in Afghanistan, both the British (prior) experiences and the Soviet Union's and we are repeating history with the bodies of our young people. No matter how old this struggle to get out of this tar pit is, we must keep on insisting...because more people will continue dying if we don't persist.
 

KS Goh (0)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 5:31 am
Thanks for the article.
 

lee e (114)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 5:33 am
thanks -done
 

Richard Smith (81)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 7:40 am
Americans have no business fighting there in the first place.

solving any dispute by "who has the bigger gun" only means the
BIGGER GUY does more damage to the smaller guy.
I think its time to outgrow this playground thinking.

 

Lisa On Vacation (203)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 7:43 am
Signed, thanks Dandelion.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 7:49 am
Both petitions signed, thanks Dandelion and Sysanne
 

Victoria P (110)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 7:53 am
Thank-you Dandelion and Susanne...signed both!
 

Lone W (1428)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 8:24 am
signed
 

Terrie Williams (798)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 9:04 am
Thank you for helping us influence policy by signing this petition to bring our troops home.
Signed, noted and forwrded.
 

Sue Matheson (79)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 10:36 am
bring those troops home now
 

Karen H (23)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 12:02 pm
It was on the news that Obama has stated pulling troops out of Afghanistan by 2013, Some of the military leaders are for it and some against. However,if you listen to the Repubs currently running...they are war mongers, always scaring the public by saying that Obama is soft on security. NO he isn't. He is so much smarter than the previous administration. Obama also doen't look to wars to create jobs. The Repubs like Cheney start illegal, unnecessary wars to create billions of dollars for his chronies. Billions are unaccounted for, and no-one cares about that either. anyhow---seriously, there was an article on the 'puter also within the last couple of days regarding getting out in 2013. So there is light at the end of the tunnel.
 

Karen H (23)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 12:31 pm
U.S. Plans a Shift to Elite Forces in Afghanistan - NYTimes.com

I can click on this and get to the article...but am not sure if this is transferring correctly. It was located on the bottom right of the petition page also. or cut and paste...??
 

Hayley Rose Stirling (4)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 12:36 pm
Sadly my on my partners last tour of duty, 3 of his friends were severely injured by an attack by an ANA Solider who they were working with. One of the UK soldiers had to have his foot amputated following the attack. They were all lucky to have survived the attack. It is an awful state of affairs. I love my partner dearly, but I despise his job and what he has been part of. It breaks my heart the state of the world.
 

Jim Phillips (3247)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 1:10 pm
Petitions signed.


Get our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan NOW!

Rebuild USA.

Ty, Dandelion & Susanne..
.
 

Mary P (157)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 1:11 pm
Thanks Dandelion. Violence breeds violence! Can you imagine how the
Afghani families must feel when the american and allied soldiers murder many innocent
Civilians? What about the american invasion destroying lives and the infrastructure , leaving
Behind tons of homeless widows, widowers and orphans; not forgetting the drone attacks that have killed many
Innocent civilians? Obviously america's atrocities and murders are going to
Breed contempt for the american and allied forces. No one can expect
the afghanis to be grateful to these foreign forces for their crimes
against innocent fellow afghanis! Afghani lives are just as precious as those of
the Allied and American forces! We all are human beings and deserve
Equal rights to life!
 

Mary P (157)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 1:23 pm
Dandelion, "We are training these Afghanistan soldiers so they can turn their guns on us and the other Countries that are there and kill us."

Why are they being trained to kill in the first place? Is it possible these Afghani soldiers are
protecting their innocent civilians from the brutal attacks of the invading forces? The american
and allied soldiers should have never invaded Afghanistan , murdering thousands of women, men
and children. They should go back home and get rid of the corrupt politicians and murderers in
their own government!
 

Sheryl G (359)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 2:15 pm
That is the whole point Mary, we shouldn't be training them, or being there to begin with. That is their Country, we went in on the premise of getting Bin Laden, well it's been 12 years, our Country officially stated it got Bin Laden, so if we go on that premise, we need to be gone, it's done.

It has been a 12 year drain on our economy, with deaths of our young citizens, it has made more enemies for us. We have not helped the Afghan people, many in fact suffer due to our being there. But so many times, for many readers it takes something like this kind of story to get them off the fence to say, enough, bring them home. War can be looked at from many angles, for some they do not see war as a bad thing until it targets in on a particular angle. This is one aspect or one angle to the war, and I've many stories on C2 concerning the wars, to get us out of there, the damage done on all sides.

Hayley, thank you for sharing your personal story with us. This is my whole point, I love all people and I want to see us all having our lives to live out with our families and friends. I see our soldiers as victims and pawns in this larger picture called the War Machine, where Special Interests get us involved. However, these Special Interests know that the people would not go to battle for the Special Interests if they were told the Truth....so LIES are given and the propaganda machine starts running full steam ahead.

We all, as American citizens, need to start stepping up to the Special Interests by learning the Truth and not to be so easily led. I believe most of the people around the world would enjoy having a good relationship with our Country and it's people, but we haven't shown ourselves to be the best intended towards them. We come across too pushy, too arrogant, and the people instead of speaking out to stop the war machine, remain too silent, or too sold on war instead of checking their hearts more often.

It requires all of us to become active in this. I've been on the streets for years with my against the war or pro peace signs, since VietNam.....I've NEVER stopped. I've written, called, petitioned, do stories on C2, have joined Occupy in our town. Sure I'd like to have more time to kick back and watch a little TV, read a good book, play with my 4 year old granddaughter and I do fit that in there, I'd like more time to do so. But until we have a Government that is not running a War Machine, then I must take a part of my life on a consistant bases and stand up to the War Machine.

Many years I'm alone on the side of the road, I get some honks for support, thank you's, peace signs, but the people need to do MORE than that, they as well need to get their butts out on the side of the road and let their fingers do the calling to the White House, their Congress Member and tell them.....Stop the War Machine! My 4 year old granddaughter is now standing with me and bless her heart I've got a 93 year old sitting in her chair. Come on people where is the thunder of your voices and bodies across this Nation. How many more must shed their own blood before we get others to get off the sofa and out on the street?
 

Sheryl G (359)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 2:26 pm
Karen: I found this.....thank you:

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said the U.S. role in Afghanistan will shift from combat to “advise and assist” by mid-2013. The change will remove thousands of armed forces from the country, leaving Afghans to take control of their own security. The United States and NATO are scheduled to be out by the end of 2014.

At link:
USA and NATO to be out end of 2014

That is another 3 years, IF the Government doesn't change it's mind again. This is the longest war already in our history and what did we accomplish? I mean, are we any better off for it? Are the Afghan people? How many more will die in another 3 years, and for what. What do we tell the Mother whose son dies? Or the one who comes back missing a leg? They died for freedom? Whose freedom? Then they learn the truth and I'm sure that missing leg will be a constant reminder to them of the lie they were given.

We are not out and the drum beats for Iran......from one to another. Why? Why are we doing this? Don't buy the propaganda lies fed to you......dig deep.....not in the Corporate media, they will not tell you. So you are correct a 2013 phasing down is to begin, so we can train a few more people to kill us, as they are angry for killing them. It makes no sense, none at all, bring them home now, as quickly as possible. I'm sure the Afghan people would be more than happy to help us load up our trucks.
 

Diane Piecara (14)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 2:34 pm
It has gotten to be one war after another, after another. No wonder we are in such debt! I can see the media already prepping Americans for a confrontation with Iran. Reminds me of the same song and dance (and trickery) that got us into the occupation and devastation of Iraq. As the saying goes...I AM ALREADY AGAINST THE NEXT WAR!
 

M B (62)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 3:13 pm
No more war !! As America plays a leading part in the world, they should give an example, "stop fighting - bring peace". Shame on the Republicans, who feed the war-machinery. Wake up America, the world is watching.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 3:20 pm
So much is backwards....people all must open inner perceptions to see that all life is equal in spirit and deserving of love and support.
 

Christopher Fowler (82)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 3:25 pm
Every single expert on history, Afghanistan, the Middle East and Islam warned that this would happen. But the idiots in the White house and in the GOP run Congress REFUSED to listen to them, and career politicians always claim that they know more than the experts. After all, "God" was on our side, wasn't he?

It was only a matter of time. Everyone that had even the smallest amount of common sense said that this would happen, but there were those warhawk wannabe's in DC making the orders to stay had no sense.

We need to get out of there now. No matter what we do, the US will still be nothing but infidels to them and they will resent that we have stayed this long, no matter how much we try to help them. Let them live or die on their own.
 

catherine Buchanan (113)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 3:57 pm
the deep seated animosity towards the u.s. goes way back to the days of when the soviet union was there. literally, after the fighting ended, afghanistan was devastated and instead of keeping our promises to the young people whom we recruited to fight the soviet union and its expansion, we abandoned them and many of them saw their children starve. we had promised to build them schools and we didn't. the only reason why we are there now is because karzai used to be a prominent figure in unocal. we want our hands on their natural gas. we let the drug lords run rampant. we let the taliban take over. we did many, many despicable things. why are we still there? it's for u.s. interests and the afghan people know this. we can't fool them anymore. they woke up the minute we abandoned them all those many years ago.
 

SuSanne Plum (17)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 6:16 pm
Thank you sweetie. I was NOT confused re: Afghinastan and Iraq. It felt like EVERYONE was so rabid to get out of was they didn't 'notice' Afghinastan.
Sheryl I heard on CNN or an affiliate that 3 years was the "due date". That was a couple of weeks ago!
Signed!
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 7:41 pm
The war in Afghanistan would have been over years ago - but this 'war' was left unfinished to get into the Iraq war. Now we are all back in it again and for what? What is this war all about? So many young lives lost and our soldiers cannot even trust the Afghanis they are training. A God forsaken land - we need to be out of there asap - give the Afghans the equipment and let them sort it out witht he Taliban........a war of attrition - there are NO WINNERS. Signed thanks Dandelion.
 

Teresa Cowley (274)
Sunday February 5, 2012, 8:53 pm
I totally agree--we never had any business going in there, we have no business being there, and our people need to get out of there!!
Both petitions signed.
 

Nimue Michelle Pendragon Gaze (339)
Monday February 6, 2012, 2:17 am
Noone had any business going there.
 

patricia lasek (317)
Monday February 6, 2012, 7:00 am
Signed along with this message.
The senseless war in Afghanistan has gone on for too long now. Our mission there was to capture Bin Laden. He is gone now, thanks to you and Seal Team 6. Let's bring our troops home now.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Monday February 6, 2012, 7:36 am
3 years is the due date to get out of Afghanistan.

Why do we need 3 more years? That is a long time. What, we need 3 years to finish the pipeline?

3 years isn't going to fix Afghanistan. 3 years to do what? Another son killed.....for what?

How long did it take to fight WWII? A world war and we need 3 years to get out of Afghanistan.

Think people, get the anger going towards Congress and the White House and DEMAND we get out NOW!
 

Marianna Molnar (9)
Monday February 6, 2012, 9:25 am
very sad indeed
 

Rhonda Maness (580)
Monday February 6, 2012, 10:56 am
signed
Thanks Dandelion
 

John E (15)
Monday February 6, 2012, 3:57 pm
RAWA says ... http://www.rawa.org/rawa.html ...
" it is the duty of the people of a country to fight and achieve these values (freedom and democracy). Under the US-supported government, the sworn enemies of human rights, democracy and secularism have gripped their claws over our country and attempt to restore their religious fascism on our people. The US administration is replacing one fundamentalist regime with another. The US government and Mr.Karzai mostly rely on Northern Alliance criminal leaders who are as brutal and misogynist as the Taliban."
Now RAWA has been saying this for a long time ... If the ostensible beneficiaries of "liberation" (the women of Afghanistan) are against the foreign intervention, just why is "the coalition of the willing" still there?
You would have to ask shareholders and directors of arms manufactures/sellers, and the war contractors who are getting so wealthy out of Afghanistan and Iraq the answer to this one.
It is the classic case of transferring billions of taxpayers' money to companies who rely on the war machine for their income.
And who obviously have plenty of support and representation in Washington.
No matter who is in power.
 

Kamila A (141)
Tuesday February 7, 2012, 3:36 pm
what is it about humanity that thinks waging war will solve our problems? Haven't we learned yet, thousands and thousands of years after the first battles that war only makes our lives worse? When will we figure it out? When will we wage peace? Who will be the one to step forward and dare do this?
 

Rosemary Rannes (642)
Tuesday February 7, 2012, 10:47 pm
Signed Sheryl and posted to Twitter. Prayers rising for all service men and women to come home safe sound and soon from Afghanistan.
Thank you for helping us influence policy by signing this petition to bring our troops home. Kindly invite your friends and family for their signatures and support.
 

Terri Hughes (416)
Tuesday February 7, 2012, 10:57 pm
Time to bring the troops home. This war has gone on way too long. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!! ''SIGNED''
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday February 8, 2012, 7:54 am
Thanks Sheryl, yes, we cannot petition often enough for this horror to end and troops come home. Unable to sign this one but signed the CAF petition Susanne linked to, thanks Susanne!
 

Judy C (91)
Wednesday February 8, 2012, 6:53 pm
I was listenng to some official being interviewed on C-Span recently, and I can't remember who it was. Anyway, he said we can't pull out of Afghanistan now, because it will mean that those who have fought and died there would feel that they did so for nothing. That was so ridiculous, because I don't see how jeopardizing and killing still more people is going to make it worthwhile all of a sudden. We are never going to accomplish anything of lasting value there. We need to get the hell out now. Signed. Thanks, Dandelion.
 

Gwendolyn Krupa (49)
Thursday February 16, 2012, 8:39 pm
Signed.
 

. (0)
Sunday February 26, 2012, 4:41 pm
Signed both. Thank you!!
 
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