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Legacy of Agent Orange


World  (tags: Agent Orange, Vietnam, legacy, Damir Sagolj, disabilities, picture says a thousand words )

Sheryl
- 1396 days ago - widerimage.reuters.com
The pictures are not about the before and after, they are all about now. As for how poorly we read history and stories from the past, IâEUR(TM)m afraid that is about our future, too. States the photographer Damir Sagolj. WARNING photos may be hard to view



   

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Sheryl G (359)
Friday April 24, 2015, 1:05 pm
This is a difficult one....but I thought it was important as Earth Day has just gone by, that we remember what we do to the Earth Every Day comes back to haunt us and people suffer greatly.

Agent Orange is still, even today, causing pain and heartache for millions of people in Vietnam. That we continue to use substances in wars, such as the DU that is now left in Iraq is fostering more suffering long after the last bullet has been fired and the last plane pulls out. War doesn't end for some people at a certain date, it didn't end for these people in 1975 and it didn't end for many of our soldiers that were drafted there either. Their bodies still suffer and they have had children with birth defects from the ongoing effects of Agent Orange.

And Monsanto is still holding a lot of Agent Orange and wondering how to make money off of this stockpile so is spraying it on crops, foods that any of us could end up eating. We keep signing petitions so this will not end up in the mainstream food markets.....but that doesn't mean Monsanto will not keep trying. So when you speak out, sorry.....but sometimes it's important to actually "see" what Agent Orange does.....and continues to do.

What the hell are we doing? What the hell are we allowing? I put these on here because I WANT people to see and to REALLY REALLY understand what these toxins and poisons can do.
 

Kathleen M (211)
Friday April 24, 2015, 1:30 pm
Sadly shared and noted. Thanks for posting, Dandelion.
 

Vamadeva Ramakrishnan (175)
Friday April 24, 2015, 1:33 pm
Noted and shared. Heartbreaking story. Innocent people suffering even decades after the war ended. Thanks for sharing, Dandelion.
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday April 24, 2015, 5:27 pm
That's you, Dandelion, yes. and Monsanto puts its deadly shit on because they WANT power over people, aside from getting even richer and richer, and also determine who when and where is ripe for depopulation... that's them.
 

Animae C (507)
Friday April 24, 2015, 6:04 pm
"The United States stopped spraying Agent Orange in 1971 & the war ended in 1975.
Twenty years later, some people from villages & cities didn’t know all about it.
Forty years later, today, children & their parents still suffer & a large part of the story remains untold.
Agent Orange is one big tragedy made of many small tragedies, all man made."

Thank you Dandelion for posting this on our 100 year anniversary of ANZAC day!

Lest We Forget
 

JL A (281)
Friday April 24, 2015, 9:26 pm
And a new twist of these chemicals is being approved for use in the US...why do our leaders want this future for their grandchildren? Thanks for the reminder Dandelion
 

Rose Becke (141)
Friday April 24, 2015, 10:20 pm
The pic speaks volumes !
 

Michael Mattson (137)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 12:16 am
It's sickening and it needs to stop! Noted.
 

Arild Gone for now (174)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 3:05 am
What a terrible legacy USA left in Vietnam.
 

Peter B (86)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 4:05 am
That is meant not personally and since me please also not badly, but exactly also around it I have relative little compassion with US Army! Which US Army did in Vietnam with its senseless and cruel deputy war (communism against anticommunism) were in principle “only” because it the politicians at that time so wanted! A great many young US American men and the Vietnamese people (approximately 3.5 million dead) paid the price. “War is at least only terrorism with a bigger Budget"
 

Birgit W (160)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 5:21 am
We have to stop the military and all the corporations who do not give a damn about people but just about their profit. One of the worst company is Lockheed Martin.
 

Ben O (135)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 7:03 am
Wonder why I call Monsanto pure EVIL...???
 

Mandi T (366)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 10:20 am
The photo says it all :-(
 

Sam E M (0)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 11:29 am
It is truly heartbraking. So many children lost and most of the survivors severely handicapped. It's tragic, and even more terrible to think that it could happen again. A terrifying perspective.
 

Winn A (179)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 11:35 am
Heartbreaking to say the least.
 

Janet B (0)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 1:16 pm
Thanks
 

Joanne Dixon (37)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 3:07 pm
This feels somewhat personal to me. I was on active duty in the Marines when Adm. Elmo R Zumwalt Jr. became Chief of Naval Operations and hence my (distant) boss. What happened then:

" Zumwalt began issuing Z-Grams, personal messages and directives from the CNO sent directly to deckplate Sailors. Z-Grams ushered in many monumental changes in the fleet, such as benefits for minorities and women, relaxed grooming standards, and better quality of life for the average Sailor. Z-66 promoted equal opportunity in the Navy, pushing the Navy forward in a racially divided military.

"We were not trying to create a Navy in which any group, any segment was anything other than an integral part," said Cmdr. (Ret.) Bill Norman, Executive Director to Adm. Zumwalt's Advisory Committee on Race Relations and Minority Affairs. "He was trying to get across a message that regardless of how good our hardware and our systems are, we need people."

Following his term as CNO, Zumwalt retired from the Navy. His son, Lt. Elmo Zumwalt III, who had served under his father during the Vietnam War, was diagnosed with cancer and died. Zumwalt believed it to be related to the use of Agent Orange during the war.

"In wartime, a commander makes the least worst decision he can make and clearly based on what he was told by the chemical companies, that was the right decision," said Marine Lt. Col. (Ret.) James Zumwalt, Adm. Zumwalt's son. "The downside was we didn't learn until well after the war was over that the chemical companies had lied and unfortunately, the bitter irony for our family is that one of those who fell victim to that was my brother."

Through his retirement years, Zumwalt worked to get benefits for veterans affected by the defoliant and helped found the National Bone Marrow Registry. For his work, Bud was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton in 1998.

The above was quoted from "All Hands," a site "by sailors for sailor." MAybe it's excessive to say I adored him, but on the other hand, "thought highly of him" doesn't do my feelings justice. You may well feel his son's death was karma, but who else except maybe Smedley Butler has tried so hard to right the wrongs he was involved in?


 

Lois Jordan (63)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 3:39 pm
Noted. Thanks for posting, Dandelion. Seems like "everything old is new again." This should be deeply distressing to all, and the info should be spread far and wide.....and often. This is where our Fourth Estate should be on the "frontline" of information. Definitely not just a quick blurb in the 24-hour news cycle. It is up to all of us to fight the people with all the money and power. But, as the world continues to grow in population, it seems that there is no care for the health and welfare of the 99%.
 

Diane K (134)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 4:07 pm
It's very sad that chemicals can do so much damage to the earth and people. Thanks Dandelion
 

marie C (163)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 5:38 pm
Visited the Veteran centre in New York many years ago It broke my heart how these men suffered also visited Vietnam The weapons the Vietnamese used were horrendous I visited Cu Chi tunnels YUK I can not think how those American G.I.s suffered or how the ones who survived faced life after seeing the torture their friends experienced at the hands of the Vietnamese I remember the Vietnamese chap showing us round laughed so much at an elderly American women who fainted because they had laid fire crackers to scare people into thinking they were mines My heart still weeps for those veterans and their families
No one seems to learn from war world wide we are all suffering one way or another
 

Edith B (146)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 9:20 pm
A very good friend died four years ago from lung disease caused by Agent Orange. I also had an uncle who died from the same thing. Now this article shows me that the people of Viet Nam are still suffering from it. When will our government wake up to the fact that chemical companies cannot be trusted to tell the truth? I firmly believe that the current surge of autism and alzheimer's are directly related to the chemicals we consume or breathe every day.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday April 25, 2015, 9:38 pm
There will always be bullies in the schoolyard. The brightest and best usually are pacifists. There comes a day, usually too late for too many, when yet another facet of the ongoing "Battle Of Armageddon" must be fought, by banding together. The united meek shall inherit the Earth. What's left of it. I have reason to believe that positive unseen forces of energy will help those who help themselves.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday April 26, 2015, 7:43 am
Agent Orange is a horrible thing. Cancer from it killed my dad. The Army admitted that much.
Now, before people go on a "he got what he deserved" rant... he was MEDICAL service, and he was exposed on rescue missions. My dad had a policy, "IF the person is injured or ill, they are mine. I don't care what uniform they are wearing, IF they are wearing one, what ethnic background they are, what color they are, what gender they are, what age they are." He never turned anyone away and never turned down a rescue, however dangerous. Every helicopter under his command was shot down at least twice (some more than that). He was no bully, and he was no coward.

Agent Orange is a horrible thing.

So Others Might Live
Love you, Dad
 

Sheryl G (359)
Sunday April 26, 2015, 9:13 am
Thank you all for sharing on here and the chemicals companies, if they don't lie, they fail to tell the full story. We find out afterwards and is what happened with Agent Orange. But we need to learn from this because in Iraq it's the DU. The negative affects of war last long afterwards.

I too feel as you do Edith that all these chemicals that surround us, in our foods, water, air, household products, in the end are poisoning us all and it comes out in various forms, autism rates keep climbing and alzheimer is such a tragic way to watch the ones we love leave us and also frightening that it can happen to any of us.

MJ J. I know that seems to be the trend today, bash the soldier, and I had hoped the lesson on how harmful it is to our society that this is done. Returning Vietnam soldiers were called all sorts of negative names and they took off their uniforms and never spoke of it again, holding it inside, which came out in the form of drug abuse and alcoholism, others, like today, took their own lives. We must remind those who forget that there was not a choice to join back then, there was a draft going on.

Even without a draft too many people are sold the story of why we must go into this war or that war, always is told, this war is different, even if Vietnam was wrong, Iraq is different, and if we don't do this weapons of mass destruction will rain down upon our heads. Fear is a useful tool to get the American families to send into battle their most precious, their children, and the youth, full of vigor, the feeling of being invincible is sure to save the day or as the ads say, you get to see the world, which to many youth who never had much seeing the world sounds great......hence why few of the wealthy ever sign on. No it's the poor and the middle class that always pay for these things.

So I don't bash the soldiers, who are mostly young and have few options and limited knowledge, the blame in my mind goes onto the civilian leadership and the Elites that always have their special agendas in mind as to have this conflict or that war will make them money or protect their interests. The American people, are more to blame next than the soldiers for if they have been down this path a time or two are not speaking out in large enough numbers to make it matter. And it's kept that way, this "patriotic" stuff pushed down that if you don't do this or that and support all these wars then you are not patriotic enough.....also keeps people from speaking.

Thank you all for sharing you thoughts and even personal stories on this. I knew this was going to be gut wrenching from any angle one might want to approach it......but I thought it was important to place out here.
 

Judy C (91)
Sunday April 26, 2015, 7:49 pm
It's beyond my ability to express the reaction these photos elicit. Thanks to those above who shared their experiences with this monstrous substance. It is imperative that material like this be disseminated. People must learn not to have blind trust in any corporation or government. The innocents must suffer, and that is the worst part of this tragedy. Thank you for bearing witness to this, Dandelion, as difficult as it is.
 

MmAway M (519)
Sunday April 26, 2015, 7:55 pm
Thank you Sheryl ~
Just got news yesterday my cousin died....It was from this S..TTY war.

I'll return dear.
 

Val D (34)
Sunday April 26, 2015, 8:42 pm
My heart goes out to everyone affected by this horrific chemical. Chemical corporations must be stopped. It's simply not acceptable, ever, for any reason and reminds me of Nazi Germany.
 

Sherri G (128)
Monday April 27, 2015, 12:08 am
MONSANTO EXECUTIVES NEED A BATH IN THIS STUFF THEN THEY MIGHT GET IT. Noted TY Dandelion NOTE.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Monday April 27, 2015, 1:47 am
Sorry for your recent loss Marilyn.
 

Roslyn McBride (30)
Tuesday April 28, 2015, 1:21 am
Agree with Val D.'s comment
 

Sheryl G (359)
Thursday April 30, 2015, 12:56 pm
I believe I had already signed that petition Ros, but it took my signature so if I hadn't I did now. Anyone wanting to sign go to live link below. This is one of the reasons I posted the story Ros, one among several reasons I posted.
Petition Stop GMO and Agent Orange
 

Gina Caracci (219)
Saturday July 11, 2015, 7:56 pm
did some research years back and found out where I live was also a test site for the poison.. its why im sick and they killed my Dad....
 

Sheryl G (359)
Saturday July 11, 2015, 8:44 pm
I'm very sorry Gina. I recall you telling me this and was thinking about you as I was placing this onto C2 news.
 
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