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Chamber of Commerce Lobbyist Tom Donohue Clinton Will Support TPP After Election - Petition

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- 1086 days ago -
Top lobbyist for the pro corporate power Trans Pacific Partnership TPP agreement, assured viewers that if Hillary Clinton wins the Presidential election, Clinton will support the TPP, even though she opposes it now.


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Animae C (507)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 6:17 am
Petition signed
6,510 signatures.

Thanx Dande

Pat B (356)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 6:32 am
Signed, thank you !!

Winn Adams (179)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 6:33 am

Sheryl G (359)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 6:48 am
PETITION is at the very bottom of the article click onto the word HERE.
Or go HERE

Sheryl G (359)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 6:50 am
Pictures say a thousand words....Hillary with Tom Donohue and some other partners pushing for TPP.

Donna T (0)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 6:53 am
thank you

RJ H (45)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 6:58 am
Had read this earlier, but thank you, Dandelion for the post. Noted, signed shared, petition. 6515. RJ Hughes from Jicarilla, NM signed this petition on Mar 30, 2016.

RJ H (45)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 7:13 am
But, of course, she will support it, ... because, for one thing, and if nothing else, it's good for all the BIGGEST of donors to the Clinton Foundation (and to her and her campaign, as well). The Clinton's have always been big proponents of these BIG trade deals, let's not forget it was Bill Clinton who signed NAFTA into law. .....

"Clinton said he hoped the agreement would encourage other nations to work toward a broader world-trade pact. NAFTA, a trade pact between the United States, Canada, and Mexico, eliminated virtually all tariffs and trade restrictions between the three nations." And what it actually did was hurt labor and unions, costing the USA approximately 3 to 4 million jobs* (*by some very conservative estimates), the closing of hundreds of factories in the US, increasing the profits on Wall Street, while widening the income inequality gap, hurting the environment and further eroding the rights of indigenous peoples and their lands in Mexico and elsewhere. The TPP, will be even worse, because ti gives the largest multi-national corporations virtual impunity to do as they wish, and no realistic way to hold them accountable, will also, once again, hurt labor and cost the US even more jobs, according to many top economists (and others. environmental group and labor group lawyers, etc.)who have studied it carefully. among other things.
NAFTA signed into law - Dec 08, 1993

Ben O (135)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 7:49 am

JL A (281)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 7:58 am
This story presents a perspective validating voter fears that Clinton's more progressive stances termed "evolution" are a gimick to woo voters rather than a commitment to supporters. Thanks for making us aware of it Dandelion

Darren Woolsey (218)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 8:11 am
Shared the article, and signed and shared the petition, whose link is here:

Past Member (2031)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 8:30 am
Hillary Clinton will be the nominee NOT loser, joker Bernie Sanders. She will also win the election. Get used to it!

Terrie Williams (798)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 8:58 am
Thanks! Sooooooooooooo frikken signed, shared and noted.

Past Member (0)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 9:56 am
Signed-thx Dandelion

Barb SiteIssues V (202)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 10:43 am
Signed & Noted, Thank you

Ed Site Issues V (198)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 11:05 am
S&N, Thanks

M B (62)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 11:14 am
Thanks for the link**********

Sheryl G (359)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 2:42 pm
Gee the Hillary troll has added another word to her vocabulary...went from joke to now joker.

Any policy discussion? Concerning NAFTA perhaps? No? Glass Steagall? No? Didn't think so.

Daniel Partlow (179)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 2:53 pm
S&N Thanks. This is why we need Berne so much!

Padamu T. (0)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 3:17 pm
Nice Info...

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 7:44 pm
It is a COMPLETE FALLACY, to say, well, at least Bernie is "moving the Democratic Party to the Left".
That is what the Democratic Party WANTS you Bernie Voters to think, of course!
You KNOW - you KNOW, that THE MOMENT SHE GETS ELECTED - if, Gods forbid, that should ever come about - you KNOW, that she will just LAFF AND LAFF AND LAFF and PROMPTLY GO BACK ON ALL HER "LEFTY"-SOUNDING PROMISES - TPP and all the rest - and WHO'S GONNA STOP HER?! NOBODY, that's who! It will be IMPOSSIBLE, literally, to hold her to account.

Hillary Clinton is the MOST LYING, CHEATING, VOTER-SUPPRESSING, DECEITFUL, DISHONEST, CONNIVING, UNTRUTHFUL, EGOTISTIC, PERFIDIOUS and I could go on - WOMAN ever to run for President of this country. [There have been plenty of other WOMEN to run for POTUS, including Victoria Woodhull in the 19th century and Jill Stein, currently, for the Green Party...] Any "Feminist" who votes for Clinton just because she's a WOMAN, has to be NUTZ, I'm sorry! THERE HAVE TO BE MORE QUALIFIED WOMEN. It is SEXIST to say there is "ONLY ONE" Qualified Woman in the entire USofA. ONLY one, and it's Hillary?! Unless LYING NONSTOP makes you qualified, Hillary Clinton is UNQUALIFIED to run for President.

There is ANOTHER FALLACY that is presented by Hillary apologists - who are rightfully EMBARRASSED about their candidate! And that is, "Don't be TOO HARD on Hillary now, don't criticize her, becuz the Democratic party will have to Unite behind her and you are scaring everybody off!"
Well I have news - fully ONE THIRD, and it may turn out to be EVEN MORE, 1/3 of Bernie Voters say, they will NEVER EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES VOTE FOR HILLARY. That's sure understandable! And these are NOT generally Democrats, altho some are - most are INDEPENDENTS and NEW VOTERS who have NO "loyalty" to Dems that can be called on, and they WON'T BE SCARED OR GUILT-TRIPPED into Voting for Hillary "after all". They can't be "persuaded" by you or by me.

ONLY BERNIE CAN WIN and Unite the Good Elements left in the Democratic Party. It is NOT like the Candidacy of Nader or McGovern - that is ANOTHER FALLACY they try to foist on you - neither candidate HAD A HUGE MASS MOVEMENT BEHIND HIM. ONLY BERNIE has such a HUGE MASS MOVEMENT THAT HAS BY NOW SHOWN IT TURNS OUT ACTUAL VOTERS IN RECORD NUMBERS. [IF they are ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO VOTE! and their Votes are ACTUALLY COUNTED!]

It would be a TERRIBLE SCANDAL TO THE WORLD, if the Hillary Clinton Campaign - and NO WAY is Ms. Clinton NOT responsible for what her Campaign staff does, she can't wriggle out of it! - if the WHOLESALE CHEATING AND VOTER SUPPRESSION AND TAMPERING WITH BALLOTS her Campaign has exhibited in State after State after State so far, and seems to be present ALREADY IN NEW YORK - if these DISGUSTING, ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL SHENANIGANS were to be "rewarded" by the Democratic Party Nomination! So the Clintons prove that CRIME DOES PAY, huh? What is this, the Presidency or Head of the Mafia they are fighting for???!!!
Will we have to call in United Nations Observers in this country, to make sure that Ms. Clinton doesn't CHEAT HER WAY TO THE PRESIDENCY?!
Again, ONLY BERNIE CAN WIN - Hillary is HATED, DISTRUSTED, by over 50% of Voters, and that isn't a really good sign, is it?! - and the Dems will be COMMITTING SUICIDE if they don't grasp that, and very soon.....

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 7:55 pm
Lest I be seen as making an "Ad Hominem" argument against some Feminists - let me REPHRASE what I above said!
This way:
The ARGUMENT some Feminists make/have made, that Women ought to Vote for Hillary JUST BECAUSE she's a Woman -
One REFUTATION of that ARGUMENT is, that there are OTHER QUALIFIED WOMEN who are MORE QUALIFIED; there is NOT ONLY JUST ONE woman who is qualified to run for POTUS.
So - let's us Feminists and Allies WAIT FOR A BETTER ONE... avoid a CRIMINAL as "our" representative of Women!!!

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 8:07 pm
Nyack: This has NOTHING to do with my "will".
It is not my "will" that Trump is on the path to DESTROYING the Rethuglican Party, and maybe the entire two-party system itself!
It is merely my OBSERVATION.


I PREDICT - based on previous Observation - I PREDICT that Bernie will CONTINUE TO HAVE HUUUUUGE LANDSLIDE WINS of 70% and 80% in Primaries and Caucuses! That is, IF VOTES ARE HONESTLY COUNTED. [If Votes were HONESTLY COUNTED - instead of ILLEGALLY INTERFERED WITH by the Hillary Campaign - Bernie would have WON SEVERAL STATES THAT WERE "CLOSE" OR "TIED" - like Massachusetts, Illinois, Nevada...]

EMBARRASSING is the word!
And the Candidate - Hillary - simply can NOT be defended by any RATIONAL ARGUMENTS -
so one has to resort to SIMPLE NONSENSE STATEMENTS, INSTEAD of Arguments!!!

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 11:24 pm

Nyack: How do you get I'm telling people "how they must vote"? I am only MAKING A PREDICTION that "[only] Bernie can win".
That is like looking at horses in a horse race, and PREDICTING "that chestnut-colored nag over there is the SURE WINNER". I am NOT "telling people which horse to bet on". If you WANT TO bet on a LOSING horse, that's fine with me! I am not insisting that people BELIEVE ME, either - if you DON'T believe me, I can't, and I don't want to, get inside your mind somehow and MAKE you believe that "the chestnut-colored horse will win"! It just might be, from my extensive study, that I can ACCURATELY TELL WHICH HORSE HAS THE MAKINGS OF A WINNER, and which horse does NOT!
Why are you so PARANOID as to think I can force people to Vote against their will? When I am MAKING A STATEMENT about my PERCEPTION OF REALITY? whether about Horses, or Bernie?

The thing is, HILLARY IS SUCH A TERRIBLE CANDIDATE, such a TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT, that NOBODY can find ONE SINGLE, RATIONAL, TRUE, CONVINCING THING TO SAY IN HER FAVOR. Hillary is the DREGS of Humankind, of Human Females, of ANY Gender of Humans. The MAJORITY of Americans, of American VOTERS, find Hillary Clinton UNTRUSTWORTHY and even HATEFUL. HATEFUL! The MAJORITY finds her so! How does THAT translate into "Winning over some Rethuglican nominee"? it DOESN'T.

See the article by Oliver Stone, that I just posted in the C2 News. For a LONG LIST of why Hillary Clinton's Foreign Policy is the WORST THING EVER.
Clinton's "supporters" can find NOTHING TO SAY but one-liner ATTACKS that are MEANINGLESS STRINGS OF UNRELATED WORDS. Attacks on Bernie that are Devoid of any content; Attacks on Bernie Supporters that are NONSENSICAL. Oh, that's Hillary all right - she brings out the BEST in people, doesn't she?!

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 11:33 pm

Above is the LINK to the article by Oliver Stone that I mentioned.
It is MUCH MORE about Hillary, than about Bernie. I highly recommend it.
I just a few minutes ago, posted that article by Oliver Stone as a Care2 News Item.

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 11:45 pm

This $300k COMES OUT OF STUDENT TUITION, you understand!!!
Students who MAY BE IN DEBT FOR YEARS AND YEARS for their Student Loans to pay off their Bloated Tuition Fees.....

Sounds like maybe some sort of "Charity", it's SUPPOSED TO, anyway.....
In REALITY, the "Clinton Foundation" is JUST ANOTHER PIGGYBANK for the Clintons to pack their ENORMOUS WEALTH away in, where they STILL HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OF IT, nobody else does.....
Clintons have accumulated ENORMOUS WEALTH in JUST THE LAST EIGHT YEARS..... hmmmmm.......

Clinton is the DREGS, I tell you, the DREGS.... but, of course, anyone is free to NOT believe me - to IGNORE THE EVIDENCE, if you choose to!!!

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 11:50 pm

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday March 30, 2016, 11:58 pm

Charged $200k to speak at boys and girls club, didn't donate ANY back, didn't meet with the kids.
ALL the money went into the $2 billion Clinton Foundation. [Sounds like some sort of a TAX BREAK SCAM, doesn't it, the "Foundation"?]
The highest fee ANY speaker ever charged them.

Aren't they, the boys and girls club, aren't they the RECIPIENTS of Charity and Fund-raising?!
W T F ???????????

Past Member (0)
Thursday March 31, 2016, 8:56 am
The article states the obvious.

TPP = 40 more years of crappy, toxic laced, slave-labor made products sent here to keep our wages lower so that inflation doesn't eat away at the interest accumulated the 1%'s bank accounts.


Past Member (0)
Thursday March 31, 2016, 9:30 am
To: BMutiny TCorporationsEvil:

Nyuck and Kristi K are Rush Dim-Bulb Graduates. They are easy to spot on the radio, easier in person, but a bit more difficult online. I just had a go. You can recognize RDGs by looking at the comment section where they will offer two or three lines of dialogue and you reply with a 100, they will read your 100 and reply with 1, 2 or 3 sentences repeat ad nauseam........From this point forward, I would ask those reading to consider that before engaging with either of them.

The Republic's burning while Nyuck and Kristi K are playing the fiddle......typical republicans.

Birgit W (160)
Thursday March 31, 2016, 12:58 pm

Lois Jordan (63)
Thursday March 31, 2016, 4:27 pm
Noted. Thanks, Dandelion.
It is simply my belief that she will backtrack on the TPP----for it before she was against it.....among other issues where she's changed her mind, like her vote on the Iraq War. Petition gladly signed.

Past Member (0)
Thursday March 31, 2016, 6:46 pm
Noted, signed--thanks Dandelion. Much info above.

Bonnie Lynn M (1)
Thursday March 31, 2016, 7:36 pm
Petition signed. Thank you

Thomas M (8)
Friday April 1, 2016, 10:26 am
Like I am going to trust what the leader of the Chamber of Commerce says. Pure political garbage and said at a critical time. Think about it. The Chamber is not a fan of Democrats.

Arielle S (313)
Friday April 1, 2016, 10:49 am
againHillary was for TPP until it became unpopular to be for it. To think she would not change her mind after an election is a bit naive...
But she is also pro-fracking, pro-GMO's, pro-Wall Street, etc. etc. I just don't feel I could trust her to be on my side for the things that are important to me.

Sheryl G (359)
Friday April 1, 2016, 11:57 am
The Chamber of Commerce is a fan of Corporate or Third Way Democrats.....think about it. Bill Clinton was a supportive President to NAFTA and other Trade Bills that were NOT good for the American worker and last I knew he was a Democrat.

If we have a Democrat running with Bernie Sanders that is against Fracking, against GMO's and will stand up to Wall Street and Stand Up for the workers so that no more Trade Bills that hurt the American worker is passed why vote for the Candidate that has been for TPP now claims she isn't. Bernie Sanders has been on record against TPP from the beginning.

Mandi T (366)
Friday April 1, 2016, 12:17 pm
There are currently 6,537 signatures

Jeff Creech (64)
Friday April 1, 2016, 12:37 pm
Noted and Signed.
Hillary gonna do what Hillary gonna do.

Lenore K (0)
Friday April 1, 2016, 3:35 pm
oh, harder to get medicine isn't good.

Roger G (148)
Friday April 1, 2016, 5:04 pm
signed, twitted, forwarded and noted, thanks

Christeen A (300)
Friday April 1, 2016, 6:35 pm

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Friday April 1, 2016, 10:44 pm
To Randy Q:

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Friday April 1, 2016, 10:47 pm
Attack of the Trolls

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Colleen L (3)
Friday April 1, 2016, 11:17 pm
Petition signed. Thanks Dandelion

Judy C (91)
Saturday April 2, 2016, 2:10 am
You're right about trollery, BMutiny.

I suspect that Clinton was just jumping on the Sanders bandwagon on the TPP issue. I'm not so sure she would honor such pledge if she took it. She would probably create some loophole, but it won't hurt to press her to do so. Signed. Thanks Dandelion.

Marija M (25)
Saturday April 2, 2016, 1:38 pm
noted, tks

Donna G (42)
Saturday April 2, 2016, 1:43 pm
NAFTA was horrible for our country. The TPP would be worse. Hillary changed what she had previously said about the TPP, only because Bernie's supporters were growing in numbers. Even if Hillary supports progressive change the way Bernie does, she prefers incremental change. Would that be like taking one step forward and two steps backward?

My refusal to support Hillary has nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman. I don't trust her. She is a corporatist, a 1 %er, a war hawk. Look at her history as Secretary of State. We are not that desperate for a woman as President.

I am doing all that I can to help get Bernie Sanders elected. The more people hear his message, the more supporters he gains.

Colleen L (3)
Saturday April 2, 2016, 6:14 pm
Petition signed. She won't be getting my vote. Thanks Dandelion

Denise D (31)
Sunday April 3, 2016, 7:20 am
N, s & s. Thanks for sharing this article and petition, Dandelion

Thomas M (8)
Sunday April 3, 2016, 9:02 am
I am so glad a corporate lobbyist can speak for Hillary or anyone else. People need to realize this is his strategy to create chaos. The Chamber of Commerce of the US - c'mon, get real. I said it once and I'll say it again. I voting for the Democrat that gets the nomination. Either one is a million times better than any republican in office.

Peggy B (43)
Sunday April 3, 2016, 1:57 pm

Past Member (0)
Tuesday April 5, 2016, 11:45 am
signed of course; Thanks Dandelion!

fahad Al fahad (140)
Tuesday April 5, 2016, 3:34 pm
Do she really support the TPP! Or just election talk !

Walter F (129)
Tuesday April 5, 2016, 3:54 pm

LaurenBackSoon Kozen (173)
Tuesday April 5, 2016, 3:59 pm
Noted, Signed & Shared. Thanks Dandelion.

Inge B (202)
Tuesday April 5, 2016, 11:58 pm

Why not Anarchy??

Love The Swedish Troll.



Sheryl G (359)
Wednesday April 6, 2016, 6:12 am
Love the link your provided

Shirley S (187)
Wednesday April 6, 2016, 7:29 am
Petition signed.

Arild Gone for now (174)
Thursday April 7, 2016, 3:12 am

Sherri G (128)
Saturday April 9, 2016, 1:36 am
Signed and Noted Thank You Dandelion

joan silaco (578)
Saturday April 9, 2016, 7:00 pm
duly noted

Darlene W (289)
Monday April 11, 2016, 7:52 am
Noted, signed, and shared. Thank you.

Darren Woolsey (218)
Monday April 11, 2016, 11:55 pm
Reshared on social media to encourage more signers.

Beryl L (78)
Sunday May 8, 2016, 3:51 am
signed shared and thank ou very much Dandelion.
Inge, great link!
One last word if I may...PEACE!

Darren Woolsey (218)
Sunday May 8, 2016, 11:24 pm
Reshared article and petition over social media, Dandelion.

Darren Woolsey (218)
Tuesday September 6, 2016, 1:56 am
TPP: No To Post-Election "Etch-a-Sketch"
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Darren Woolsey (218)
Thursday September 8, 2016, 12:38 am
TPP: No To Post-Election "Etch-a-Sketch"
There are currently 6,660 signatures. NEW goal - We need 7,500 signatures!

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