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Justice and Accountability Necessary to End Tension

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Democracy Now, Dr. Cornel West, police killings, justice, police shootings, police shot at, Amy Goodman )

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The killing of three police officers in Baton Rouge and the recent nationwide protests against police brutality with Cornel West. He said when I hear the authorities call for peace I say yes but it is not the absence of tension. There must be justice too.


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Dawnie W (250)
Saturday July 23, 2016, 12:27 pm
❤️:-()❤️Noted...Very sad and complex, The world needs more love and respect for everybody :-((((❤️
❤️ Thanking you kindly for sharing this information❤️
💕💛ღ❤️Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ💕♥L💜ve, Hugs and Peace go with you all♥💕Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ❤️ღ💛💕

Darren W (218)
Saturday July 23, 2016, 1:46 pm
Shared over social media.

As always he makes useful poignant points.

Rose B (141)
Saturday July 23, 2016, 9:43 pm
True Dawn

Still having trouble with care2

Mandi T (367)
Saturday July 23, 2016, 9:51 pm
TY Sheryl

Past Member (0)
Saturday July 23, 2016, 10:36 pm
Peace and justice for all. I still think that it can't be had, unless there is the laying aside of differences, tolerance, and a uniting of the masses to remove the corruptors in our entire system. The 1% are presenting their very successful genocide of the middleclass on down, concentrating first on those they find the most vulnerable and distasteful. Coming soon, to a theater near you. You have options. Revolt or lay down peacefully and weep for what could and should have been. When we allow the abuse, murder, genocide of one faction of our populace, then you can be sure it will come to visit us all--hopefully in guilt-ridden nightmares, awake and sleeping---and then right in your face, or in your back. Thanks Dandelion.

Liliana G (204)
Saturday July 23, 2016, 11:26 pm
I agree the oppressive economic conditions must be addressed. It must mean then REDISTRIBUTION of wealth.

Darren W (218)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 12:38 am
No doubt, the 1% and a significant number of people below that 1% think and believe, blindly, and implicitly that THEY ARE entitled to and worthy of the wealth they hoard. That's another disease and symptom of a very sick, dysfunctional mechanism that has gripped mankind for a long time.

People born into wealth, are generally brought up with this attitude that it's their God Given right to have the comforts and privileges they enjoy. People born into poverty obviously almost never make it beyond being poor and having to struggle.

Compassion and conscience are the heavy and poignant components missing from the equation. Were people to actually FEEL compassion and experience their conscience, they would be and feel moved to actually do something.

Arild W (174)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 3:55 am
Talk is important but you must change the mindset of police to move forward.

Danuta W (1251)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 4:30 am

Marco C (31)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 4:36 am
A very balanced point of view and good points were made.

I agree that "rage needs to be rechanneled". I imagine that it can happen if we are honest and open about where that comes from and creative about how those issues can be resolved. I don't think we need to solve all the worlds problems tomorrow, I believe that if we can work constructively to identify the sticking points, demonstrate a willingness to address those issues together with progress toward resolving them, we will be on a tolerable and sustainable path with advantages for all and that can happen right away.

These are good principles to follow, even with our current political yearnings. It is helpful to identify and be open about our fears (many of them exaggerated). Once identified, they can be addressed, collectively and openly to show good faith and strike a balance. If we can make this our mission a unifying satisfaction will follow and we can all share in the success. Nation building right here at home. Strong individual resources combined for resilient communities woven by shared interests to stimulate our human potential can make a powerful society and nation to be proud of.

Can best happen if our fears are displaced by an awareness of a greater collective potential and a desire to build on individual greatness to achieve, have and be something far greater and much MORE satisfying than just me. A good solid foundation is more than one or two solid bricks. Interesting no? Think about it.

Barb SiteIssues V (202)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 4:42 am
Noted, Thank you

Arielle S (313)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 4:57 am
I feel Janice said it: "You have options. Revolt or lay down peacefully and weep for what could and should have been." I'm so weary of the 'moments of silence' and 'heartfelt sympathy', etc. DO something. We need to stop being afraid, apathetic or too busy and demand some changes.

Sheryl G (359)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 5:14 am
Thanks all.....a great thread with some well thought out comments. I miss when we use to have more of that on C2.

Robert B (55)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 5:40 am
The manic, gun toting, "law and order", us against them mentality MUST GO!

Winn A (179)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 7:51 am
Thanks Sheryl

Jeff C (64)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 12:11 pm
I think that randomly shooting and killing police officers is not just an act of Terror it is an act of War. These kind of actions will never serve unchanging the unjustified murders and persecution of black people by our criminal justice system. Contrary, they bring about more rage and anger toward the black lives matter movement and give more excuses to a primarily racist Society to justify said persecution.
It is time for the federal government to pass laws that will make police and the criminal justice system accountable four actions that deliberately persecute people of minority.

Birgit W (160)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 12:44 pm
Thanks for sharing Dandelion.

pam w (139)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 1:05 pm
(I don't know if she'll actually SEE the star I sent....but Arielle's comment is beautiful.)

We need to have programs for police officers.....SOON!

Sheryl G (359)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 1:24 pm
We have minority Veterans coming back well trained many with PTSD. They come home and watch daily as a citizen that they served to protect be killed, a citizen with dark skin. Over and over these people are being shot for mostly flimsy reasoning or no reason at all ie the Therapist trying to help the patient with autism.

They watch people marching, they watch people filing complaints, they watch the talking heads and time after time no police officer is ever held accountable for their actions. I can see where some Veterans can't take it anymore and do what they were trained to do - protect the people being shot.

I'm not saying that is a way to handle things, but the prosecutors, the police themselves, and the justice system overall best start getting their acts together and provide better training for the police as well as start holding some very clear cases of over-reach of using a weapon to handle the situation that should never of gone that far, accountable.

Police are not above the law, but it sure appears they are lately and most of us are tired of the police looking like the military all the time. If the police want to feel safer on their jobs the neighborhoods also need to feel safe from the police killing them at random too.

margaret c (41)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 1:49 pm

Janet B (0)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 3:46 pm

Eleonora O (37)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 4:42 pm

Janice - you said it all, thank you!! Hope you can see the Green Star **************

Lois J (63)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 5:08 pm
Thanks, Dandelion.
I always appreciate and enjoy hearing/reading the comments of Dr. West. He gets to the heart of the matter. Many good comments above. And, I agree that we need a major reformation of the system, as well as attitudes.

Past Member (0)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 7:38 pm

"Justice and Accountability Necessary to End Tension"

Good starting points.


Colleen L (3)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 10:24 pm
Agree with Dawn's comment 100%. Thanks Dandelion

Rose B (141)
Sunday July 24, 2016, 10:40 pm
Janice right on

Ps Dale still cant send you are star Facepalm

Siddharth B (0)
Monday July 25, 2016, 2:32 am

Jonathan H (0)
Monday July 25, 2016, 4:33 am

Leo C (312)
Monday July 25, 2016, 5:09 am
thank you for the info!

Peggy B (43)
Monday July 25, 2016, 7:20 pm
Interesting article. TYFS

LucyKaleido S (82)
Monday July 25, 2016, 7:27 pm
Cornel West is a public intellectual with important things to say on public issues. African-Americans from the fields of sports & classical music, who rarely engage on political issues or take a public stand, have nonetheless come out on the violence that is tearing our country apart:

July 26, 2016, The Guardian - Michael Jordan: 'I can no longer stay silent' on violence in America'
=>"NBA legend ends silence on shootings of African Americans, police"
=>"Jordan gives $2m to groups improving police-community relations"

13 July 2016, The Guardian - "We athletes can no longer remain on the sidelines in the struggle for justice," Op-Ed by Carmelo Anthony
=> "Hashtags won’t solve the endless cycle of violence that’s engulfed America. That’s why I’m calling on my fellow athletes to stand up and do more" - Classical Music Steps In for BlackLivesMatter - Classical Notes Add to Voices of Protest
=> "On July 13, 2015, Sandra Bland died while in police custody in Texas. On July 13, 2016, the one-year anniversary of her tragic death, The Dream Unfinished held a concert to commemorate her and the large number of Black women impacted by police killings. Whether Black women and girls are killed by police directly; their loved ones are killed by police; or police refuse to intervene or respond - Black women, girls, and femmes are affected by police brutality and killings"

Coverage includes photos & video.
• Classical Music Steps In for BlackLivesMatter - William Robin (New York Times, July 10, 2016)
• Classical Music Concert `Sing Her Name' Pays Tribute To Black Lives - Priscilla Fran (Huffington Post, July 12, 2016) =>The performance, set to take place on the year anniversary of Sandra Bland's death, is as important now as ever.
• "Sing Her Name" took place Wednesday, July 13, at 7:30 p.m. at Cooper Union. =>
"The orchestral and choral concert featured a world premiere by composer Courtney Bryan, with text by poet Sharan Strange. Grammy-nominated and Grammy-award-winning conductors James Blachly and John McLaughlin Williams led the #SingHerName chorus and The Dream Unfinished Orchestra. Soloists include WQXR's Helga Davis, pianist Michelle Cann, and Kelly Hall-Tompkins of "Fiddler on the Roof," who acted as concertmaster for the performance.

"In addition to musical selections, Sing Her Name included appearances by Terrance McKnight (WQXR), Kimberle Crenshaw (African American Policy Forum), Gina Belafonte (, Farah Griffin (Columbia University), Agunda Okeyo (Sisters of Comedy), Farah Tanis (Black Women’s Blueprint), composer Trevor Weston, and other artists and speakers.

"Proceeds will go to the Center for Constitutional Rights, Black Women's Blueprint, and African American Policy Forum."

An historic perspective on what has been going on demonstrates that treatment of African-Americans by police is a matter of 'tradition':
July 11, 2016, - Baton Rouge, Falcon Heights, Dallas - "A thick strand in the history of U.S. policing is rooted back in the slave patrols of the 19th century."
Opening paragraph=> "Patty rollers were authorized to stop, question, search, harass and summarily punish any Black person they encountered. The five- and six-pointed badges many of them wore to symbolize their authority were predecessors to those of today’s sheriffs and patrolmen. They regularly entered the plantation living quarters of enslaved people, leaving terror and grief in their wake. Together with the hunters of runaways, these patrols had a crystal clear mandate: to constrain the enslaved population to its role as the embodiment and producer of massive wealth for whites and to forestall the possibility that labor subordinated to the lash might rebel at the cost of white lives.

How far have we come, really? .../... "

Maryann S (112)
Monday July 25, 2016, 7:43 pm
Thanks for sharing, Dandelion.

LucyKaleido S (82)
Monday July 25, 2016, 7:54 pm
I agree with Professor West: I don't want the police to be killing (and maiming) African-Americans on MY behalf, on the behalf of all of us!

"Social neglect, economic abandonment, ...every day black people wrestling with unbelievably oppression conditions," but, as Mr West points out, poor white people, white working-class people are also victims of police brutality, even if Black brothers (and sisters) are proportionately victimized more often & more systematically.

It's the impunity the police expect to benefit from that allows the cycle of mistreatment and murder to continue! When Police know they won't be held accountable for mistreating & murdering poor people that there is no reason to give citizens fair and just treatment. I believe that every single police agent indicted for the murder of Freddie Gray, for Freddie Gray's horrendous fatal injuries, has been acquitted! (and that's just one example...) And yet, even his arrest (which led to his death on the intentionally 'rough ride') was unjustified & illegitimate. How can people not go mad with fury?

Sheryl G (359)
Tuesday July 26, 2016, 1:12 pm
How can people not go mad with fury?

Correct, and too many people have remained silent for far too long. Is good to see the sports people finally taking a stand. I recall how Muhammad Ali spoke out about many of the injustices of the day.
Also musicians speaking out, they tend to always be in the forefront, but we need others to join in.

What this is a class struggle and the Elites pit the police against the people, this is classic going way back in time. When the labor movement was gaining strength many of the strikers and the laborers were killed by the police who were sent to protect the Company and the CEO even though the Company was doing awful things to the workers.

When slaves ran away for their freedom it wasn't the Elites who traveled miles to get them back it was the average person who ratted the slave out and the hired hands who went looking for them. It wasn't until the society at large determined this was no longer acceptable that things stopped. When the shopkeepers no longer agreed, when the churches didn't agree, when the tailors didn't agree, when the Doctors didn't go along with it anymore.

Today has to be the same way - the Nurses and the Doctors are speaking out on the tragic situations they see daily coming through their doors, not just shootings, but children whose parents don't have enough to feed them adequately anymore as the cost of things climb and wages stagnate and jobs are hard to get or at least a living wage job is hard to obtain.

Darren W (218)
Tuesday July 26, 2016, 2:52 pm
One of the most ridiculous things in our so-called civilized societies is the fact now, that protest is frowned upon, and seen as subversive.

So, not only are the election processes in both our countries AND Europe, determined by a heavily right-wing mainstream conditioned Press/Media, but people rarely challenge what they've had conditioned into them.

Animae C (508)
Thursday July 28, 2016, 4:41 am
Great comments, no bad smells here : )))

TY Dandelion

Sheryl G (359)
Thursday July 28, 2016, 5:18 am
Good morning Nyack so nice to smell you too.....

I appreciate you posting the article on Former Reagan and Bush appointee is highest ranking Republican to break ranks for Hillary which is showing how the Democratic Party under Hillary is more like the Republican Party that even the HIGH ranking Republicans KNOW it to be true. Never in the past would one have crossed over and said that.

The FART IN Has not started yet, but as you live nearer to it than I, I'm in hopes you'll enjoy the sweet aroma of democracy blowing in your direction.

toot toot toot

Darren W (218)
Thursday July 28, 2016, 5:47 am
Shame you can't wash your insides out.

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" (Mark Twain)
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