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9 Ways Socialist Denmark Leaves the US Economy in the Dust - WAY Behind!

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Bernie Sanders, Socialism, Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Democratic nomination, Denmark, Capitalism STINKS, College Student support, High Standard of Living, Happiness Index, USA NOT #1 anymore )

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Thanks to Bernie Sanders' favorable mention, Denmark is being discussed throughout the news media. But what few outlets are brave enough to report is that, by almost every measurable standard, Danish socialism runs circles around American capitalism.


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Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday October 21, 2015, 12:02 pm
Thanks to Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders’ proud identification as a Democratic Socialist and allusion to Denmark as an ideal social democracy, Denmark is being discussed throughout the news media. But what few outlets are brave enough to report is that, by almost every measurable standard, Danish socialism runs circles around American capitalism. Here are a few examples:

1. Denmark’s unemployed workers get 90 percent of their old salary for 2 years

Denmark has a tremendous social safety net for unemployed workers — any worker who worked at least 52 weeks over a three-year period can qualify to have 90 percent of their original salary paid for, for up to two years. The Danish government also has plentiful training programs for out-of-work Danes. As a result, 73 percent of Danes between 15 and 64 have a paying job, compared to 67 percent of Americans.

2. Denmark spends far less on healthcare than the US.

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD), the US spends twice as much per capita on healthcare than in Denmark, where taxpayer-funded universal healthcare is available for all citizens. 2009 OECD data shows that the U.S. spent an average of $7,290 per person on healthcare. Denmark spent just $3,512. World Bank data, as seen in the chart above, shows Danish healthcare costs are about $3,000 less per capita than in the US.

3. Denmark is the happiest country on Earth.

The World Happiness Report, which determines which nation’s population is the “happiest” using criteria like life expectancy, GDP, social safety nets, as well as factors like “perception of corruption” and “freedom to make life choices,” found that Denmark was the happiest country. The US, in the meantime, ranked #17 on the same list.

4. Danes enjoy the world’s shortest workweek

Denmark leads every other OECD nation in work-life balance. Danes work an average of 33 hours a week, earn an average of $46,000 USD annually, and have the right to 5 weeks of paid vacation per year. Here in the US, the average worker puts in an average of 47 hours a week, and only takes 16 days of vacation a year. This is largely due to a more stressful work climate, in which wages are stagnating while costs are rising. Combine that with a highly-competitive job market, and that means more Americans are willing to chain themselves to their desk then to risk taking vacation days and coming back to find someone else took their job.

5. Denmark pays students $900 a month to attend college.

Here in the US, the cost of going to college has soared by over 500 percent in the last 30 years. But in Denmark, not only is college free, but students are actually paid $900 USD per month to go to school, provided they live on their own. And this funding lasts up to six years. By contrast, the average US student pays over $31,000 a year in tuition to attend a private university, out-of-state residents at public universities pay $22,000 a year in tuition, and tuition costs for in-state residents at those same universities is still over $9,000.

6. Denmark has one of the highest per-capita incomes in the developed world.

In Denmark, despite a short work week and a generous social safety net, workers make more than enough to meet basic needs. According to per capita income data from the World Bank, Denmark’s per capita income is roughly $5,000 higher than in the US.

7. Denmark has one of the world’s lowest poverty rates. The US has one of the highest.

The benefits of living in Denmark are far-reaching — out of all OECD countries, Denmark has the second-lowest poverty rate at 0.6 percent. To compare, the OECD average of 11.3 percent is still lower than the 14.5 percent poverty rate in the US.

So all this socialist nanny-state coddling must be making all the businesses flee Denmark as fast as they can, right?

8. Denmark is ranked the #1 best country for business (The US is ranked #18).

In 2014, Forbes ranked Denmark as the #1 best country for business.
Forbes used 11 different criteria to rank countries — innovation, property rights, red tape, taxes, investor protection, stock market performance, technology, corruption, personal freedom, freedom of trade, and monetary freedom.
Under the same criteria, the US ranked #18.

9. New parents in Denmark get 52 weeks of paid family leave. New American parents get nothing.

The Danish government gives new parents an average of 52 weeks — a full year — of paid time off after having a child. Those 52 weeks can be allocated however the parents wish. In addition to the 52 weeks, new moms get 4 weeks of maternity leave before giving birth and 14 weeks after. Even new fathers get 2 additional weeks after the birth of their child.
But here in the US, 1 in 4 new mothers go back to work within two weeks of having a child.

This is what Democratic Socialism really looks like.
Is this the dystopian nightmare that Republicans are making it out to be,
or an ideal vision of what Americans could have if we came together
and demanded it from our government?

Roger G (148)
Wednesday October 21, 2015, 12:07 pm
every thing that runs contrary to the 1% propaganda is censored in the Western media... so nothing new here

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday October 21, 2015, 12:14 pm
Repeat it after me:

It is NOT the ONLY system possible! as the Capitalists OF COURSE want you to believe.
The PROPAGANDA is put out by the 1% AT THE TOP.
It is NOT the ONLY alternative to Soviet-style Despotism, Authoritarianism, Totalitarianism.
The Scandinavian countries don't EXIST, huh????? THEY ALL HAVE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM.

The Rethuglicans and their Errand-boys [and girls] want you to believe that Capitalism and the U.S. are the same thing - AND, "that the U.S. is #1, and respected and admired for it thruout the world".
THIS IS A BIG, FAT, LIE. It is NO LONGER TRUE. The U.S. is regarded as a DECREPIT LOSER thruout the World. Decrepit ECONOMICALLY, in Standard of Living; and just look at the Rethug Clowns running for POTUS!
The Rethugs and Faux News listeners and the U.S. Public in general, are KEPT FROM KNOWING how we are REALLY PERCEIVED in the rest of the world. And, of course, U.S. people generally don't READ the foreign press.... they are so self-absorbed in their bed of "feel-good" LIES they are told!

Lone F (56)
Wednesday October 21, 2015, 2:38 pm
Noted - thanks BMutiny

Animae C (508)
Wednesday October 21, 2015, 4:36 pm
Thanx BM

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday October 21, 2015, 4:54 pm
US economy has BEEN in the dust, producing $$ out of thin air for too long already! Their debt pile reaches to the skies! Crash is just a matter of time, that's why they keep the war rolling, in Syria e.g., to push of being broke!
Read defense News-check the Pentagon's weapon sales numbers- at a RECORD HIGH for 2015 FY, 46 billion!
(Thx to "fighting ISIS")

Past Member (0)
Wednesday October 21, 2015, 10:29 pm
I've said Iceland is the one to emulate, but, definitely include Denmark. Now I can be even more proud of that Danish blood that mingles with the American Indian and President John Adams.The US has sunk to the depths, in all respects. We must tear out the weeds that have taken over our governmental and socioeconomic structures---and has wormed their way into our homes, our land, our bodies. When we replant, try to be circumspect and sow pure, untainted seeds, and transplant only the sturdiest, most nourishing plants---throw the rest out. As we can see above, "We The People" can wrest the reins of power from evil corruption and heal, renew enforce a true democracy, with "The Spirit Of 1776". Revolution!!

Past Member (0)
Wednesday October 21, 2015, 10:34 pm
One more thing---thank you BMutiny, for your "labors of love"; intense, informative presentations with much inner spirit and heart interlaced into your personal thoughts on each issue.

Rose Becke (141)
Wednesday October 21, 2015, 10:34 pm
Thanks so much BM

Sheryl G (359)
Thursday October 22, 2015, 7:25 am
You go girl....

Thanks to Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders’ proud identification as a Democratic Socialist and allusion to Denmark as an ideal social democracy, Denmark is being discussed throughout the news media.


Denmark’s unemployed workers get 90 percent of their old salary for 2 years.

While most of the States within the USA have shorten back how many months one can collect unemployment during the time it is still very difficult to find employment. In Florida you can only collect for 23 weeks and the maximum one can receive is $275 per week.

Try living off of that low money, whereas Denmark pays 90% of ones pay. So if someone is trying to pay their rent or mortgage to a home they could afford on their salary, they can still manage it. Who can live off of $275 a week no matter how high or low their salary was? No wonder we have so many homes go into foreclosure and people end up homeless.

And then here in Florida Tea Bag Gov. Rick Scott has done everything he could to make collecting benefits as difficult as possible.

Thousands of Floridians await jobless benefits of up to $275 a week that they need to survive, and Sen. Bill Nelson, R-Orlando, calls the state's claims system "a mess."

Sen. Bill Nelson Calls for Federal Investigation of Florida’s Unemployment Claims System. Gov. Rick Scott passed a law that requires jobless benefits seekers to only use the new website to get assistance, a website that wasn't working correctly, offered no assistance on how to use it, and no way to correct anything if either the website or the unemployed made a mistake.

Denmark spends far less on healthcare than the US.

Imagine that.....we need a Universal Health Care plan. ASAP. Republicans want to dismantle the Affordable Care Plan and leave millions once more with nothing, I don't like the program myself but lets improve not make worse the situation.

Denmark is the happiest country on Earth.

Most people I know are under stress about their failure to see anything improving for them or their children in the future. Not even the 1% are happy, dear souls, no one likes them, they feel isolated. Awww, give them a hanky.

Better still lets relieve them of some of that wealth, thereby helping them and helping those who can't buy their medications and don't know where the next meal is coming from. Give the homeless a place to call home. Get work programs started and educate the youth without burdening them forever with debt for having done so.
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Danes enjoy the world’s shortest workweek.

And have the money to enjoy that time off as well. We have an either or situation in the USA, either one has the time as they can't find a job, so they are too broke to enjoy the time off, plus the Elders and Disabled haven't seen a decent COLA raise in so long that they are strapped for cash too.

The flip side is people who are working are paid so little they have to work another job or two just to keep a roof over their head. Remember that woman who died in her car while she was catching a cat nap between one of her 3 low paid jobs. She had to keep gas in her trunk as she didn't always have the money when she needed the gas to go from job to job or the stations were not open or nearby to go from job to job.

Also remember?

Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." To a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005” said by George Bush

Yes, uniquely American alright. Instead of laughing you should of hung your head in shame that a mother can not see her children as she must work 3 jobs just to keep a roof over their heads. oh ha ha ha, very funny, no it is not.

Denmark pays students $900 a month to attend college.

Imagine that and Hillary thinks she is doing the students a favor making them work for some lower tuition. Get a clue Hillary, they are working getting the education. I recall sleeping in an unheated attic, working part time to get an education. After two years I had to stop getting an education, I didn't do too bad, 2 years still went a way back then. But the rich children didn't have to do that, those who had a stable home didn't have to do that, but I did, and I've paid for that my whole life starting off on less of a footing. Imagine if I could of had free education and received an income to keep a roof over my head......I'll tell you I'd gone a heck of a lot further then I was able to do. My full potential was not able to be developed.

Some Countries believe in the investment into their citizens knowing that their citizens will the reinvest back to the Country. Wish we could get the American people to understand that simple concept. Vote Bernie Sanders he "gets it".

Denmark has one of the highest per-capita incomes in the developed world.

If I hear how "exceptional" we are in the USA again. Yes, we are "exceptional" exceptionally STUPID. We can and should be doing better. There are a host of conditions that need to be tackled from Climate Disruption to a state of the art infrastructure and all we get is more of the same BS that is pushing us into a 3rd world Nation.

Denmark has one of the world’s lowest poverty rates. The US has one of the highest.

No surprise there, can't miss when one's economy is placating to the rich only. 96% of all newly created wealth is going to the top 1%. Just look around, one can see it everywhere, people standing on the side of the roads with signs begging for help, buildings falling down, bridges and roads in disrepair.

In my granddaughters school more than 78% of the children are on free or reduced lunches.....some schools have 100%. Hers is in the lower end of it. Sad case when 78% of children are eligible for help to eat and that is considered "good".

We certainly have accepted some low standards for ourselves.

Denmark is ranked the #1 best country for business (The US is ranked #18).

Just ask Trump he'll fix that. Keep living in your illusion people.......

New parents in Denmark get 52 weeks of paid family leave. New American parents get nothing.

And on that last word I'll end it......we get "nothing". Got that one correct.


Angelika R (143)
Thursday October 22, 2015, 7:49 am
Not quite, Sheryl, sad to say, but, you do get the pity and mockery from the rest of the world... more each day as your administration keeps failing you.

Ben O (129)
Thursday October 22, 2015, 9:08 am
"Socialist Denmark"...??? -Give me a break!

Ben O (129)
Thursday October 22, 2015, 9:20 am
In fact the present danish government is liberal and conservative. But Denmark has (like Sweden) welfare reforms such as a free school system, free medical care, income support and unemployment benefits...

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Thursday October 22, 2015, 11:10 am
Yes, Ben, Americans don't really know much about "Socialism", and really most of them haven't a clue about the difference between "Socialism", and "Social Democracy" or "Democratic Socialism"; and a lot of Americans furthermore don't have any idea of the differences between "Socialism" and "Communism" or even "Stalinism"!
This is the result of DECADES of Red-Baiting and McCarthyism in our press and by right-wing Politicos - even after the original Senator McCarthy has been dead for decades! [He died of alcoholism not long after being exposed as the Liar he was...]
So, Americans are generally confused on the subject. And I know this article uses the term "Socialism" very loosely! However, that's where Americans' understanding is right now.

But, thanx, Ben, for bringing some Clarity!!! We're learning, we're coming along...

Note that if you saw the American Democratic debates, Anderson Cooper's "question" to Bernie Sanders about his being a "Socialist" and having had a Soviet flag hanging in his office and going on a [govt-sponsored diplomatic] trip to the Soviet Union with his wife - THAT WAS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF RED-BAITING, which you can see STILL GOES ON... A Soviet flag was once hanging in his office! PROVES Bernie's a secret Communist! But, what's so "secret" about such a flag [probably also connected to Bernie's long-ago diplomatic trip as Mayor of Burlington...].

Fortunately, the YOUNGER GENERATION seems fairly IMMUNE to these Red-baiting efforts...
Guess they'll have to try and prove Bernie's got a Quran sitting somewhere about in his office... only the Idiots would be worried about that...

Winn A (179)
Thursday October 22, 2015, 6:54 pm
Thanks Barbara!

Kamia T (89)
Saturday October 24, 2015, 11:36 am
It all sounds very good, but then I hear that the administration in Denmark is very controlling, and the main reason that it works this way there is because the country is so small and so lacking in diversity that they don't have those issues to contend with. Who knows.

Birgit W (160)
Saturday October 24, 2015, 6:25 pm
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Walter F (128)
Saturday October 24, 2015, 7:35 pm
. Denmark has as Australian for the future Queen,that's the secret.Perhaps America needs one.We have plenty more beautiful Tasmanians willing to fill the bill for you.

Arild Warud (174)
Sunday October 25, 2015, 5:02 am
This is the case for all of Scandinavia - (Denmark,Norway and Sweden).I also second Ben's comment:

""Socialist Denmark"...??? -Give me a break! ".

Thanks BMutiny TCorporationsEvil.

Darren Woolsey (218)
Sunday October 25, 2015, 1:43 pm
Capitalism destroys and decimates
Socialism binds, builds and helps.

Gloria picchetti (304)
Sunday October 25, 2015, 1:49 pm
It sounds wonderful but please remember that they killed Marius the giraffe.

Lois Jordan (63)
Sunday October 25, 2015, 6:05 pm
Noted. Thanks for posting, BMutiny.....and Dandelion for the link.
I see the U.S. is way down the list at #17 in happiness.....definitely not #1 here.
And, I agree with Angelika's above comment regarding our continuous war machine keeping the US from going broke.....and the money created "out of thin air." I am furious that my taxes are wasted in this way, when I'd rather have them funding college, infrastructure, and other necessary programs within the U.S.

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