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Thomas Jefferson: America's Founding Sociopath

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Thomas Jefferson, Hamilton, slavery, states rights, Sally Heminges, University of Virginia, Haiti, Louisiana Purchase, Missouri compromise, Southerners, debt, Constitution, political parties, breeding slaves, aristocracy )

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Jefferson penned in the Declaration of Independence especially the noble phrase 'all men are created equal.' But Jefferson really didn't believe that or much else that he said and wrote during his lifetime. He was, in reality, a skilled propagandist and


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Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 2:52 am
Oh, everybody will HATE ME after reading this!
Hee hee hee hee!!!!!
I do love History! There are so many ways to look at it....!

Rose Becke (141)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 3:00 am
Tanks Barb

I don't hate you !!! I will share Share this I have learnt so much from this post,
Slave owners makes me sick

Animae C (508)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 3:03 am
Dirty history!

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 3:08 am
Speaking of Slavery.....

Evelyn B (63)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 3:40 am
Thanks, BM!

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In French there is a saying "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose" (“the more it changes, the more it's the same thing”) ...

AWAY AWHILE Cal Mendelsohn (1065)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 3:49 am
THanks BMutiny and I am a history buff too (more European than American)--a really eye opening piece

Darren W (218)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 4:27 am
Shared FAR AND WIDE, BMutiny, especially to our deluded right-wingers.

Phony American Independence Day should be replaced and renamed American Dependence Day (dependent upon Guns, Exploitation, Corporate Capitalism).

A seething mass of twisted garbage.

Vivien Green (153)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 5:24 am
Noted thank for sharing,BMutiny, and Rose.

History can be so convoluted, it is hard to separate the wheat from the chaff

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pam w (139)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 7:18 am
And yet....he created one of the most powerful documents ever written.

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 9:42 am
Yes, Pam, that is SO INTERESTING.....!

Darren W (218)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 2:11 pm
Well, one might say the same thing about the Bible or Qur'an for some. . .


penny C (83)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 2:15 pm
Thanks BM

Past Member (0)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 6:43 pm

Interesting comments under the article, here are a few:

+34 # ericlane 2016-07-04 15:41
Parry makes good points, with the benefit of hindsight. That same hindsight should also allow us to view some of the positive points of Jefferson's life. For example, before the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson drafted the Virginia Act for Establishing Religious Freedom that passed the Virginia legislature in 1786. This singular event was the forerunner to the first clause of the First Amendment separating church from state and making freedom of conscience real as opposed to imagined. Without separation of church and state or liberty of conscience, I would argue that slavery would still exist today, women would still be property, and only propertied white men over 35 would be able to vote. Why? Because the state religion would have demanded complete obedience or banishment or death. Hindsight can't be used simply as a cudgel. It needs to be more nuanced. Jefferson was a southerner and, unlike most southerners then and today, didn't use religion to beat citizens into submission.

+60 # newell 2016-07-04 16:13
Hindsight is just an excuse. All humans know that rape and slavery are wrong--at any point in history. Whether or not they will admit it is another thing.

# tref 2016-07-06 13:09
Quoting newell: "Hindsight is just an excuse. All humans know that rape and slavery are wrong--at any point in history. Whether or not they will admit it is another thing."

So, David knew it. All the Old Testament writers knew it. Jesus and his disciples knew it. All the kings of Europe knew it. And yet, despite knowing that slavery was wrong, throughout the bulk of recorded history, "all humans" who were in a position to own slaves condoned it.

Hindsight is not just an excuse. The culture of each Time frames right and wrong as much as empirical truths because what is obvious today may not have been so obvious thousands of years ago. Much of today's sin was yesterday's daily life. And, oddly, today's virtues were often castigated as sin in centuries past.


Darren W (218)
Thursday July 7, 2016, 1:52 am
Reshared news article over social media to spread awareness.

Siddharth Bargate (0)
Thursday July 7, 2016, 3:15 am
Knowledgable info

Carl Nielsen (7)
Saturday July 9, 2016, 6:11 am
The usual revanchist crap when people with a political agendas cherypick and spin facts to suit their wiews. This isnt history - its political agitation.
Yes he shared the common views on negros at the time and existed in the economic reality of late 18th century USA. As far as I have read on that matter he did oppose slavery to the extend possible in that context - and just like Lincoln he was also influenced by a desire to preserve the union.

Darren W (218)
Saturday July 9, 2016, 11:15 pm
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