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Cheryl
- 3273 days ago - electronicintifada.net
The Israeli police used a bullhorn and shouted 'death to Arabs!' toward me once," Abed Rabbeh remembers, his hands wrapped around a small ceramic cup of tea. "Another time, they tried to tell me that my grandfather was born in Dheisheh refugee camp and th



   

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Zahra Pilavdzic (274)
Friday March 5, 2010, 4:23 pm
Norah's newest article, Abed is living in a Canaan era cave in Jerusalem, unbelievable...the ties to the land; direct and ancient, fascinating.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 3:51 am
Let's end Israel's oppression of the Indigenous people of Palestine!!!
 

Rajee Seetharam (138)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 5:10 am
May God help every nation to find peace and peace all the way! This is my intention for all times!
 

Christiane Wawrok (7)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 5:31 am
I wonder why Isreal government didn't learn from the past...
 

Terry B (649)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 6:00 am
Sure, and I always look to truthful information from a website called "Electronic Intifada"? I don't think so.
 

Kimberly Lewis (24)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 1:13 pm
It is unfortunate and painful, if the planet keeps working together, all peoples from all background and religions will be able to live and settle the land, as was intended, Shalom! May G-d bless and protect, may he help in the people and governments come to a frutiful peace and justice for all the peoples. May the hate be stopped and forgiveness and a new beginning, be very soon in our future. Amen
 

Dianne D (490)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 2:58 pm
Always good to hear from those who live in these countries to get their personal perspective on what's happening in their countries.
 

Cheryl B (375)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 3:33 pm
@Iris, if you have a submission/article to submit, then submit it, don't do it on my article. Snippets are allowed not near the whole thing, you are also changing the topic, or did you read the article dear
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 4:06 pm
Cheryl, dear, I made a point, i.e. let's protect the citizens of Gaza and the West Bank from ALL atrocities and injustice.I supported this point with an article that cited Palestinians who suffered these atrocities. Is your cause not to fight for the Palestinians? Let's be fair and include their plight at the hands of their own brothers.
My experience has been that people don't read/watch links that oppose their views. Let's test this, did you actually go on youtube, the link I posted, and listen to the sad testimonial of a Palestinian? If so, why did you not comment on that? To single out perceived injustices by the Israelis and ignore the reality of Palestinian life in Gaza and the West Bank is reminiscent of the UN Human Rights commission which is comprised in a large part of nations with the most horrific human rights violations. Indeed, it is a farce.
Dear, let me assure you that I, too, am against the suffering of Palestinians as well as Israelis. But I am also for an honest debate on this issue.
 

marie C (163)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 5:11 pm
Noted thanks Cheryl My candle is glowing for Abed tonight poor fellow what a way to live
 

marie C (163)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 5:13 pm
Have just posted this on my facebook also sent it all over the world to my friends his face is so haunted some times some one just gets to you So sad what a life
 

Cheryl B (375)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 5:26 pm
@Iris, I am not debating hamas doesn't harm its own, that is not the topic, post your own articles
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 6:35 pm
Cheryl, I seem to have hit a nerve. I thought the topic was the suffering of Mr. Rabeh. I pointed out that he is also at risk of being hurt by his own people.
"Hamas does not hurt its own"? Dear Cheryl, you proved my point that people don't click on the links provided.

To make you a better activist for your cause I recommend reading ALL the articles on the plight of the residents in Gaza and the West Bank.

By the way, if I had more time I could have commented on the inciting and slanderous style of the article.

حالة حبّ وسلا, Shalom, Peace
 

Frank Lornitzo (8)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 7:06 pm
Thanking Cheryl for the amount of investigation in the report and of Mr. Rabeh. Mr. Rabeh makes a place beautiful so I wish I could live there myself. Settlers who want to pave such over for their high rises are making "Treyf" of themselves.
 

Mohammad Yamin (0)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 10:06 pm
A woefull story of atrocities of Israeli Government in the West Bank. They have surely not learnt a lesson from the past and don't seem to fear the wrath of God
 

Abo r (107)
Monday March 8, 2010, 1:40 am

Cheryl Benson : Thanks you raised the issue..
Iris C. (29):have you read the post red it again please...
We must not look at things underneeth a black dark eyes glasses.
Please Read GHoldestone report, UN and human rights reports about WEST BANK and GAZA .
Take news from differen sources and not from the right or left ones and troops.
What is happening in west bank is a tragedy dailly killing and capturing . destruction of buildings families have no homes, how manny checkpoints in the roads, seperation of villeges,towns and fammillies by the wall,destruction of trees, what is happening in the holly places AL AQSSA ...etc.
If you want to talk about fateh and hammass talk about both in GAZA and WEST BANK and what is happening... go back few years after the Barlemnt election and the population VOTE what happened ... blockage to every thing from both fateh the authority and Israel side and other countries.
SEARCH for solutions to the problem the real one not the declared ...
We need to be honest and know each will say he is right and others will be suffering and in pain.

WE in care 2 are for the right and support make a difference need , look for facts and have facts and data from different sources, it must not be from the right or left troops and be fair with justice .
Gaza people are in commplete SEIAGE boarders are closed water not pure,no enough food no work to the majourity, no drugs pts are not allowed to go out for treatments and there are many deathes due to that closure... buildings which detructed in the war last year are not built were are the families now children women aged in winter and burnning suny days.. children needs love and care where the parents cannot afford it they are killed ,or cannot provide them with the essentials to live... electricity , gass, petrol is a real problem immagen you donot have electricity for one night in winter time how it will be if it is manny nights...
There are many many things to say in this issue .

 

Abo r (107)
Monday March 8, 2010, 2:02 am

Continueing last post

I am not definding or debbating to any.
I am not politician and I hat politics .
I hat crimes, violence and abuse of any kind to any creature human or animal..I hat killing and wars, it is enough suffering and pain to the earth and inhibitance ...
 

E A (28)
Monday March 8, 2010, 2:17 am
What's mine is mine and wha'ts yours is mine. God help them!
 

. (0)
Monday March 8, 2010, 2:30 am
Thanks for sharing!!! I noted it!!!
 

Abo r (107)
Monday March 8, 2010, 3:51 am
Mine is mine and yours is yours this is the issue...
Each to be within what is his right but who knows what is right and what is wrong.
Justice is needed everywhere and to all.
 

David R (26)
Monday March 8, 2010, 11:18 am
Mr. Ahmed is not Egypt in fact supporting the trade sanctions imposed on Gaza as well? Does Egypt in fact border on Gaza? Where are the articles and swells of protests against Egypt? Iris I agree with you that if one is to look at killing and maiming of Palestinians that one must look at the 30-40,000 killed by King Hussein of Jordan during "Black September". No war crimes trials then or when Syria killed 50,000 of it's own in "Hamra".In fact Arabs have killed many, many more Arabs whether "Palestinian", Syrian or Iraqi, than Israel in all there wars combined.
 

David R (26)
Monday March 8, 2010, 11:25 am
Simon,

Let Australia end it's opression of the indiginous people of Austaralia. Solve that one then complain about Israelis. In fact you are living on occupied land yourself!!!
 

Frank Lornitzo (8)
Monday March 8, 2010, 2:20 pm
The logic of David R's post somewhat escapes me. The occupation of Gaza by settlers is an ongoing thing, not something that went on during the colonial era. On the other hand are is there peace between the Palestinians Syria Jordan and Egypt now or are you looking for ways to break out wars among the Arabs again? In other words, what is David looking for in his quest for justice? But I'll repeat that those trying to pave over Mr. Ahmed's village to make high rises are making Treyf of themselves.
 

Bracha Katz (31)
Monday March 8, 2010, 4:09 pm
occupation? there never was a palestinian state untill israel was founded. (there was a palestinian mandate or colony) there never was a palestinian people til israel was founded (the name palestine came from a roman emporor, it is called that way after the phillistines, an ancient tribe who lived in israel). but don't mistake me, this story really is terrible, i hope it never happens again. but it is an exeption rather than the rule. i't's not as though jews or israelis who dare enter the arab territory are treated so nicely either. once a jewish person drivin in jerusalem took a wrong turn and landed up in arab territory, he didn't do anything, but he got stabbed. there are more examples like that. god help that there should be peace for all people, races and religions in the middle east
 

Past Member (0)
Monday March 8, 2010, 6:52 pm
@ Abo, please google "Goldstone report" and read how controversial this report is:
The Goldstone Report is not objective and is, in fact tainted by bias and politicization, both from the UN Human Rights Council and members of the mission itself.
The report relied upon the contributions of anti-Israel non-governmental organizations and unreliable Palestinian "eyewitnesses."
@all, and please check out the article: Ten top Israeli business ventures that inspire peace in the Middle East.
Now that gives hope.
 

David R (26)
Tuesday March 9, 2010, 4:15 pm
Frank-Gaza is not occupied by anyone other than Hamas and the Arabs living under Sharia law there. Israel tore down it's settelements there years ago and left unilaterally. Israel then was rewarded with years and thousands of missile & mortar attacks as well as the kidnaping of one of its soldiers. He has been held for sevral years now with no contact with the outside world and conditions that Hamas has never allowed inspection of. The conditions he has been forced to endure are clearly a violation of the Geneva convention regarding POW's.

As far as peace between Palestinians and the countries you name that to is based on faction. Hamas, PLFP have good relations with Syria but not with Jordan nor Egypt. Fatah has good relations with Jordan and Egypt as does Israel. The point is to highlight the double standards by the supposed Pro-Palestinaian camp when they start pointing out caualties by Israel and the deafening silence when Arabs kill Arabs and at far greater numbers than in all of the Arab-Israeli wars combined. Is that OK by you that as long as it is Arabs killing Arabs nothing is said? Just the 2 examples I pointed out were 90,000 killed and that doesn't count Sadaam Hussein.
 

Frank Lornitzo (8)
Tuesday March 9, 2010, 5:20 pm
Where does David R. li ve? There is a war going on Does he believe in the peace process or not? What says he about the two state solution? A use of term 'Faction" here I'm not familiar with. Why does David R. suddenly say "Gaza is not occupied by any one by other than Hamas? Is Hamas blocking people so they can't get around with chekpoints? Is Hamas building new settlements the Palestinians can't get into? Why did the Gaza's elect Hamas in the election? I have to find out why I should take time reading Davdid R's suiff.
 

Frank Lornitzo (8)
Tuesday March 9, 2010, 5:46 pm
I just picked up a report from the British web site and forum, "Open Democracy" that Iran has been linking up with Hizbollah under the encouragement of Syria (always pivoting for an opportunity to play) to dominate Islam with Shi-ite militancy. In other words Hizbollah appears the more immediate weapon against Israel rather than Uranium and of course always how clever to use a proxy. The intended impact is to weaken the influence of moderation related to Egypt Jordan, the Saudi's. David R. should watch his repeated canard about Arabs and Arabs. The inhabitants of Iran are Persians, not Arabs.
 

David R (26)
Wednesday March 10, 2010, 5:01 pm
Thanks Frank but show me where I mention Iran in these posts. There are many Persian Jews in the New York area. There is a great deal of Jewish history that takes place in Persia. I have been in Israel, the West Bank and Sinai. Frank there are no road blocks by Israeli's in Gaza. Israel and Egypt maintain trade sanctions with Gaza but Israel hasn't had any troops or settlements in Gaza since Arik Sharon. Israel like any country in the world mainatains control over it's borders. There was a time, before the intifada's and the homocide bombings, that Palestinians could travel relatively freely but too many Israeli women and children were killed. Any country would tighten its borders to protect it's citizens. This is a passive non lethal mehtod of dealing with this problem.

Iran and Hizboullah is news to you?
 

Frank Lornitzo (8)
Thursday March 11, 2010, 12:08 pm
Pasted portion directly from today's J Street

Frank --

Tuesday's announcement by the government of Israel of 1,600 new housing units in East Jerusalem wasn't just a slap in the face to Vice President Joe Biden.

It was a wake-up call to us all that business-as-usual peace processing is bringing us no closer to ending the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And now it may derail or delay the proximity talks just announced Monday.

We endorsed the Vice President's immediate and strong condemnation of the announcement [1], but that didn't change the reality that opponents of peace are pushing forward provocative actions in East Jerusalem that deliberately undermine chances for a peaceful resolution of the conflict. [2]

The alarm bells couldn't be ringing more loudly, telling us that hope is fading for a future in which a Jewish, democratic Israel lives side-by-side in peace and security with the state of the Palestinian people.
 
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