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Suicide Rates in Europe 'Linked' to Financial Crisis


Health & Wellness  (tags: Suicide, Europe, financial crisis, health, people )

Anna
- 2846 days ago - bbc.co.uk
The financial crisis "almost certainly" led to an increase in suicides across Europe, health experts say.The analysis by US and UK researchers found a rise in suicides was recorded among working age people from 2007 to 2009 in nine of the 10 nations......



   

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Shirley S (187)
Friday July 8, 2011, 10:55 pm
People need to be taught the REAL VALUES in life.
 

KS Goh (0)
Saturday July 9, 2011, 12:24 am
Thanks for the article.
 

Monica D (580)
Saturday July 9, 2011, 12:45 am
Very sad.
 

Akin Adelakun (21)
Saturday July 9, 2011, 6:13 am
sad
 

MmAway M (520)
Saturday July 9, 2011, 9:10 am
UMM...Why don't some of the United States Politicans stop paying themselves and Move there???
 

. (0)
Sunday July 10, 2011, 6:22 am
Amen GoneawayMm
 

as s (201)
Sunday July 10, 2011, 6:45 am
This is tragic. I read somewhere in the United States that the suicide rate is the lowest in the poorest communities.
I wonder if it is the same in Europe?
 

patricia lasek (317)
Sunday July 10, 2011, 7:51 am
Too bad it's the working people instead of the bansters and market speculators.
 

Dave Kane (308)
Sunday July 10, 2011, 11:39 am
There are twice as many suicides in the U.S. each year than murders. And yet the vast majority of them aren’t discussed at all. Unlike homicide, which is considered a fracturing of our social contract, suicide is considered a shameful problem whose victims -- and solutions – are rarely the focus of wide debate. In this hour of Freakonomics Radio, we’ll push back suicide taboos, profiling who is most likely to commit this act (and least likely), and what we know about them. African-Americans, for instance, commit suicide at half the rate of whites, for reasons tied to everything from racism to faith. And we'll consider the opinion of those who see suicide as a rational act. The biggest surprise – the suicide paradox – is that suicide rates rise as does a country’s standard of living. To some, this makes suicide (gulp) a luxury good.

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ola_111 ola_111

Persons who value their lifes low tend to commit suicide more often than persons who value their lives high.

Persons who commit suicide make rational deliberations, weighing pros and cons like when you buy a car.

Are the arguments along those lines serious? Persons who prefer pears before apples tend to eat more pears than those who prefers apples.

How many of those who commit suicide suffer from psychiatric diseases? Impossible to tell, since the statistics only capture the obvious cases, those who are diagnosed. Among those who commit suicide you find persons perfectly rational and psychotics.

Many economists should try to resist the temptation to tamper with highly complex psychological matters (the smug guy interviewed). Most of them shoud try to resist the temptation to apply their simplistic theories on reality. Macro economic suicide on a global scale might make a lot of bankers and hedge fund managers jump from high buildings.

And this is the MYSTERY: Why not ask those who have tried to commit suicide why they did it? Why not read the letters and notes written by those who actually killed themself? Because you cant stand the pain?
Jun. 19 2011 07:32 PM
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Dana from Brooklyn, NY

I found the book referenced in this episode for those who are interested.

Title: The Sorrows of Young Werther.

It's available on Amazon in all formats.
Jun. 17 2011 10:35 PM
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Robert from NYC

Having worked for 4 years at a NYC suicide hotline our first task was to evaluate, as well as we could, whether how suicidal a person was feeling at that moment. This involved asking a series of increasingly specific questions regarding whether the person was just thinking about it, or had a plan and means to carry it out that plan.
We kept the more seriously suicidal patients on the line trying to dissuade them or get them immediate medical help.
Jun. 17 2011 08:20 PM
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Ken from NJ

Death and his Brother Sleep (‘Morphine’)

There’s a mirror likeness between those two shining, youthfully-fledged figures,
though one seems paler than the other and more austere, I might even say more perfect, more distinguished,than he, who would take me confidingly in his arms –how soft then and loving his smile, how blessed his glance!

Then, it might well have been that his wreath of white poppies gently touched my forehead, at times,and drove the pain from my mind with its strange scent.

But that is transient. I can only, now, be well,when the other one, so serious and pale,the older brother, lowers his dark torch. –

Sleep is so good, Death is better, yet surely never to have been born is best.

Heinrich Heine

Jun. 17 2011 06:29 PM
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adrienne from NYC

This program really confounds me, it excludes the obvious. Without a larger perspective of the world, weather that is through religion or some other vision that asks us to contemplate, thoughfully, our history and how others suffer, that one is not alone, it's obvious that without such an awareness, people can become vulnerable to suicide.

I am not speaking of people with serious mental illness, or people in extreme situations but everyday people who have a generally good quality of life.
Jun. 17 2011 04:06 PM
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Dana from Brooklyn, NY

Great episode. Very informative. What was the name of the book published in the 1700's mentioned at the beginning of the show? Verta, Verti,????
Jun. 17 2011 04:02 PM
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Rich K from UC, NJ

Pete Fornatale told a story to my undergrad media class that always stuck with me. He was on the air overnight at WNEW-FM, when a distraught listener called asking for help. A friend had called, threatening to commit suicide. the friend wouldn't say where he was, but the caller could hear WNEW on in the background. Pete recalled an article about how the Swedish suicide rate dropped when Radio Sweden began 24 hour broadcasts. He told it over the air, ending with "so whether you're in Stockholm or New York, we're here, we care, and so do your friends and family." He started his next song, and every light on the phone lit, with each caller asking more or less the same question - "how did you know?"
Jun. 17 2011 03:43 PM
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Roger Runnalls from Wantage, NJ

in this totally materialistic, consumption-oriented world, i'm sure suicide is directly proportional to a person's materialistic expectations and whether or not they are achieving them.
Jun. 17 2011 02:36 PM
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Roger Runnalls from Wantage, NJ

in this totally materialistic, consumption-oriented world, i'm sure suicide is directly proportional to a person's materialistic expectations and whether or not they are achieving them.
Jun. 17 2011 02:36 PM
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Katherine from NY-NJ area

As a former suicidal patient and now a peer counselor in a psychiatric hospital, I can say that the rapid and brusk manner by which patients are treated by many psychiatrists hinders recovery. Suicide is a crisis, a hopelessness, and some doctors act as if they're treating a splinter.
Jun. 17 2011 11:03 AM

Listen to the radio broadcast -- it is very enlightening:

Freakonomics
 

Roger G (148)
Sunday July 10, 2011, 1:28 pm
it's so obvious !
 

Jonjon Hoy (146)
Sunday July 10, 2011, 1:37 pm
So Sad and my heart goes out to those in Europe in troubled times not to mention the E-coli issue they are facing.
 

Jonjon Hoy (146)
Sunday July 10, 2011, 1:39 pm
I agree with you GoneawayMm. Just maybe they would accidentally feel the recession crunch like everyone else does and feel the being screwed over feeling.
 

Mary L (132)
Sunday July 10, 2011, 2:16 pm
Being overwhelmed and feeling hopeless and helpless there seems no way out. If threre is no way out and all there is left is pain, shame, degradation, at least you won't feel it anymore. Been there.
 

Lin Penrose (92)
Sunday July 10, 2011, 3:58 pm
Thanks Anna. The decision for suicide is extremely personal and individual, regardless of the studies done by those who have not experienced All the factors involved. Outside looking in, has built-in filters that are difficult to take away for clear and true sight, because your own survival instincts.
 

Susan S (187)
Sunday July 10, 2011, 5:48 pm
During the "Dirty Thirties" in the 1930s many people committed suicide. There is far too much pressure on people to live up to a high standard of living and when they don't succeed they feel like failures and go into despair and defeatism. This is so tragic.
 

Rosie Lopez (73)
Monday July 11, 2011, 10:43 am
tragic
 

Patricia G (110)
Monday July 11, 2011, 3:29 pm
It's tragic, really. I live in Portugal and the news every day are very discouraging.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday July 14, 2011, 10:57 am
The wealthy get wealthier while the poor get left behind to despair and to die. Suicide is no solution. What the world needs now is popular uprising soon followed by regime change.
 
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